Joe Biden on America

[Reynolds]

This is a false accusation (your MO).

I just remember in the 90's that Joe Biden had a history of stuttering.

The problem is too many feel free to lie about people if they dare to tell the truth rather than go along with lies.

I do not think Biden should be President. I disagree with everything about the DNC platform.

But that is not a reason to lie about the man.

And my simply stating a fact that all of us who are in their 50's or older (and were attentive to politics) know about Joe Biden does not justify your false accusations.

That you would compromise your integrity over something so silly as Biden's stuttering shows just how compromised your integrity was to begin with.

JonC, your post would violate Saltys rules if I posted it or Rev posted it.
Show me something from the 90s or earlier that says Joe stutters. He lies. Stumbling in his lies causes him to have to fill pauses.

 

[JonC]

You remember he had problems stuttering in the 90s? Ok.I remember he didn't. That is settled. Joe is not stuttering. He is filling time trying to make up lies or remember what lie he needs to tell.

He could be. I don't think he is mentally sharp, but I am not sure he had that attribute in the past (judging from the Clearance Thomas Senate interviews).

I don't keep up with current politics (I only responded to what was on this thread).

 

[JonC]

JonC, your post would violate Saltys rules if I posted it or Rev posted it.
Show me something from the 90s or earlier that says Joe stutters. He lies. Stumbling in his lies causes him to have to fill pauses.

No. Rev has called me a liar and rebelling against Scripture.

I am not calling rev a liar (he may believe what he posts, who knows for sure). The lie comment was not actually directed at rev (although if the shoe fits....) but a general observation which applies to both political camps (not everybody in those camps).

Don't worry. I was chosing my words carefully.

I just do not like when people ascribe to others views they do not hold.

 

[Reynolds]

He could be. I don't think he is mentally sharp, but I am not sure he had that attribute in the past (judging from the Clearance Thomas Senate interviews).

I don't keep up with current politics (I only responded to what was on this thread).

If you Google "Joe Biden stuttering", you instantly see a mountain of articles saying Joe has stuttered his entire life. What is funny is they were all written after 2018. Joe has stuttered his entire life, but no one mentions it until 2018. Then a massive dump of articles are published. It is a made up cover story for his senility. Joe never had speech therapy. His uncle says that he did, but failed out of it in kindergarten. JonC, why you fall for the leftist lies is beyond me.
You parrot the talking points of the left, but supposedly don't follow politics.

 

[Reynolds]

No. Rev has called me a liar and rebelling against Scripture.

I am not calling rev a liar (he may believe what he posts, who knows for sure). The lie comment was not actually directed at rev (although if the shoe fits....) but a general observation which applies to both political camps (not everybody in those camps).

Don't worry. I was chosing my words carefully.

I just do not like when people ascribe to others views they do not hold.

Actually what you don't like is getting called out on the discrepancy between the views you hold.

 

[canadyjd]

People who stutter can overcome it with practice. It re-emerges in times of stress. His problem is that now, with a diminished mental capacity due to stoke and aging, the stuttering has gotten worse.

peace to you

 

[JonC]

If you Google "Joe Biden stuttering", you instantly see a mountain of articles saying Joe has stuttered his entire life. What is funny is they were all written after 2018. Joe has stuttered his entire life, but no one mentions it until 2018. Then a massive dump of articles are published. It is a made up cover story for his senility. Joe never had speech therapy. His uncle says that he did, but failed out of it in kindergarten. JonC, why you fall for the leftist lies is beyond me.
You parrot the talking points of the left, but supposedly don't follow politics.

I just googled it. Took about a minute.

There is a video from May 1994 of Biden addressing growing up struggling with stuttering and the stigma it had while in school.

Did you mean you could not find anything about Biden stuttering before 1994?

I wasn't relying on any media (left or right). I was relying on my memory. I got to dislike Biden during the Clearance Thomas confirmation interviews. I really didn't know about Biden until then.

Why did you assume I was reading-watching the media? I have only heard about the gaff on this thread. (I was watching The Terminal List, now watching The Old Man).

 

[JonC]

Actually what you don't like is getting called out on the discrepancy between the views you hold.

No. @Revmitchell made a false accusation. That is what I do not like.

If you want to talk about inconsistencies then that's fine and fair. But people should not make up things about other people. That is wrong.

What you mean is that you believe people should be on team Trump or team Biden and they should be "all in" sheeple ignoring lies from their camp to battle the opposing team.

I will not do that.

You and I disagree on one issue (where politics is involved). I believe the COVID vaccines helped, you do not.

Why not just allow that be out disagreement? Why invent other issues that do not actually apply?

 

[Reynolds]

No. @Revmitchell made a false accusation. That is what I do not like.

If you want to talk about inconsistencies then that's fine and fair. But people should not make up things about other people. That is wrong.

What you mean is that you believe people should be on team Trump or team Biden and they should be "all in" sheeple ignoring lies from their camp to battle the opposing team.

I will not do that.

You and I disagree on one issue (where politics is involved). I believe the COVID vaccines helped, you do not.

Why not just allow that be out disagreement? Why invent other issues that do not actually apply?

Because it revealed a double standard. You get to break the rules and nothing happens. (Since you asked on the open forum, I answered here)
You can't say Rev makes false statements without making the express implication he is a liar.
You are saying, by carefully choosing your words, that you were able to convey that Rev is a liar, but did it ina way that technically side stepped the rules?

 

[Reynolds]

I just googled it. Took about a minute.

There is a video from May 1994 of Biden addressing growing up struggling with stuttering and the stigma it had while in school.

Did you mean you could not find anything about Biden stuttering before 1994?

I wasn't relying on any media (left or right). I was relying on my memory. I got to dislike Biden during the Clearance Thomas confirmation interviews. I really didn't know about Biden until then.

Why did you assume I was reading-watching the media? I have only heard about the gaff on this thread. (I was watching The Terminal List, now watching The Old Man).

What is the link?

 

[JonC]

Because it revealed a double standard. You get to break the rules and nothing happens. (Since you asked on the open forum, I answered here)
You can't say Rev makes false statements without making the express implication he is a liar.

It isn't a double standard. Rev called me a liar and nothing was done. I said rev's accusations were false but he may believe them true.

That is not against the rules. He posted false accusations about me (so did you, posting I get my information about Biden from liberal media). But I do not know either of your motives.

For the record, if I ever see any news (other than the local weather) it is when I walk in and Fox News is on. Then I don't really pay much attention. Time is too short to spend my time watching the talking heads. There is too much happening on Netflix, Hulu, Prime, and Paramount Plus. I haven't even caught up with Better Call Saul!

 

[JonC]

What is the link?

Dude. Use Google like I did.

Here's an article from 1987

https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...mocrats/647dfded-495d-4281-b35b-10153f0c8beb/

Here's one from 1994.

Life and Career of Joseph Biden | C-SPAN.org


I can't remember where I saw it (that was a long time ago and I thought it was common knowledge, like Trump is a wealthy man).

Here's Biden in 2008 at an event for stuttering.

VP Biden about his stuttering

2019 article

Joe Biden's childhood struggle with a stutter: How he overcame it and how it shaped him

2010 interview on The View (yuck)

2008 NPR article

Joe Biden: From Stutter To Power

Another 2008 article

They called him B-biden


Is 1987 before or after 2018?
Is 1994 before or after 2018?
Is 2008 before or after 2018?
Is 2010 before or after 2018?

You clearly didn't know that Biden's stuttering was mentioned before 2018. And that is fair. But you are mistaking.

Why did you believe there was no mention of his stuttering before 2018?

Did you see it on fake news? Did you just take somebody's (somebody with an agenda) word for it?

 

[Reynolds]

I just googled it. Took about a minute.

There is a video from May 1994 of Biden addressing growing up struggling with stuttering and the stigma it had while in school.

Did you mean you could not find anything about Biden stuttering before 1994?

I wasn't relying on any media (left or right). I was relying on my memory. I got to dislike Biden during the Clearance Thomas confirmation interviews. I really didn't know about Biden until then.

Why did you assume I was reading-watching the media? I have only heard about the gaff on this thread. (I was watching The Terminal List, now watching The Old Man).

The links show that he stuttered as a child. They were still using stuttering as an excuse for his lies. They said that even though he no longer stuttered, he felt he must overcompensate, that leads to his nonfactual claims. He may have stuttered as a kid. He did not stutter as an adult, but he does tell a bunch of lies that the media used to call him on but now covers for.

 

[JonC]

The links show that he stuttered as a child. They were still using stuttering as an excuse for his lies. They said that even though he no longer stuttered, he felt he must overcompensate, that leads to his nonfactual claims. He may have stuttered as a kid. He did not stutter as an adult, but he does tell a bunch of lies that the media used to call him on but now covers for.

Yes. That is what I said, that he had stuttered.

Ironically you agree with Biden on this one. He says he didn't stutter. People get tongue tied all the time, or just can't get the words out.

As far as mental health, this one is a very poor claim. There are other instances that are more indicative of a potential mental decline.

Now, back to your false claim that I got the idea Biden had a history of stuttering from the liberal media.....

 

[Reynolds]

Yes. That is what I said, that he had stuttered.

Ironically you agree with Biden on this one. He says he didn't stutter. People get tongue tied all the time, or just can't get the words out.

As far as mental health, this one is a very poor claim. There are other instances that are more indicative of a potential mental decline.

Now, back to your false claim that I got the idea Biden had a history of stuttering from the liberal media.....

Is that what I said? Might want to read more closely.

 

[JonC]

Is that what I said? Might want to read more closely.

They are using "stuttering" as a convenient excuse. Strange that Joe's did not stutter until recently.

If you Google "Joe Biden stuttering", you instantly see a mountain of articles saying Joe has stuttered his entire life. What is funny is they were all written after 2018. Joe has stuttered his entire life, but no one mentions it until 2018. Then a massive dump of articles are published. It is a made up cover story for his senility. Joe never had speech therapy. His uncle says that he did, but failed out of it in kindergarten. JonC, why you fall for the leftist lies is beyond me.
You parrot the talking points of the left, but supposedly don't follow politics.

And, like you, Biden says this was not due to stuttering.

 

[Reynolds]

And, like you, Biden says this was not due to stuttering.

JonC. You can't follow what you say. You said I accused you of getting your news from the left. I said read again. You quote the above un related. As usual, you jump from topic to topic. Stay on topic.

 

[JonC]

JonC. You can't follow what you say. You said I accused you of getting your news from the left. I said read again. You quote the above un related. As usual, you jump from topic to topic. Stay on topic.

Yes. You said I get my news from the left. This is a faks accusation (I do not get news from the left, except perhaps the weather as I do not know where the light cal weather falls....left or right....but it is usually wrong so it may be from the left.

That was one issue

The other is simply that I said Biden's history of stuttering was mentioned in the 90's. You said it was not mentioned prior to 2018. I was just going off memory, but it was mentioned as early as 1984.

Have I seen him stutter? No. I haven't seen Samuel Jackson stutter either.

Do I care? No. Biden says he was not stuttering. I don't care either way.

The larger issue for me is your accusation that I get my news from the leftist media. This is not right.

 

[777]

well, here's some guy who has put a lot of research into the Biden stuttering thing:

I Listened to 43 HOURS of Joe Biden Clips From 1986-2018 Looking for His "Childhood Stutter" - Revolver News

think the stuttering now is probably due to dementia,

t-t-t-ten percent for the b-b-big g-g-g-guy

 

[Reynolds]

Yes. You said I get my news from the left. This is a faks accusation (I do not get news from the left, except perhaps the weather as I do not know where the light cal weather falls....left or right....but it is usually wrong so it may be from the left.

That was one issue

The other is simply that I said Biden's history of stuttering was mentioned in the 90's. You said it was not mentioned prior to 2018. I was just going off memory, but it was mentioned as early as 1984.

Have I seen him stutter? No. I haven't seen Samuel Jackson stutter either.

Do I care? No. Biden says he was not stuttering. I don't care either way.

The larger issue for me is your accusation that I get my news from the leftist media. This is not right.

Again. Where did where you got your news?