Joel Osteen: Why?

[Sopranette]

And your point of judgment is???:sleeping_2:

You're coming off as a fritened old man..

Sopranette

 

[annsni]

Here's a review of "Your Best Life Now" that is pretty telling:

http://www.equip.org/site/c.muI1LaMNJrE/b.2625877/k.B45B/JAO170.htm

 

[J.D.]

Picture it, 2000 years ago. Paul is wasting away in a filthy Roman prison. In pops Joel Osteen, who says "don't give up Paul, your best life is NOW!


Puleeese.

And just think of Christians TODAY in China rotting away in prisons and many suffering torture. Their best life now? I think they would agree with Paul, "to die is gain".

I have one word for the health/wealth crowd: Lazarus (Luke 16)

 

[J.D.]

From his web site:

1. Any good doctrine that may be present in that church is left over from his formerly Baptist father. I used to watch his father - he was charasmatic, but he had a good command of the Bible for a charasmatic.

2. It doesn't really matter what their statement of faith says -we're talking about the words (or lack thereof) that come out of his mouth.

3. He's attractive and charming, and his words make us feel good - RESIST IT!

 

[donnA]

From his web site:

LE, on the video he apparently will not say it, but puts hope in something else.

 

[donnA]

Here's a review of "Your Best Life Now" that is pretty telling:

http://www.equip.org/site/c.muI1LaMNJrE/b.2625877/k.B45B/JAO170.htm

Thanks Ann.

Certainly doesn't sound biblical to me.
The health and wealth gospel is a false gospel, yet christians defend it.
sad:tear:

 

[superwoman8977]

==No. Understanding what a person believes in order to know how to witness to them is not the same as telling people what they want to hear. When I talk about understanding Muslims I am talking about understanding what they believe so we can refute it and answer any questions they may have about the truth. That is hardly the same as making people feel good. In fact, it can be rather offensive when you try to explain to a Muslim or Hindu that they are not worshipping God.



==They are not obeying God's Word (Heb 10:25). Feelings have nothing to do with it. We are commanded to attend Church.

no heres the thing we are commanded to fellowship with other believers that doesnt mean we have to attend church if you go by the verse you quoted I get so tired of people saying we are commanded to go to church when we really arent we are told to fellowship with other believers whether it be a bible study or even an evening out to dinner with other believers.

 

[LadyEagle]

Thanks Ann.

Certainly doesn't sound biblical to me.
The health and wealth gospel is a false gospel, yet christians defend it.
sad:tear:

I'd prefer not to base anything about Joel Osteen by what Hank says on his site. Check this out, he's not exactly white as the driven snow...

http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Psychology/cri/law.htm

To each his own.

I'll go on believing God's promises which say by His (Jesus) stripes I am healed, ask and I shall receive, knock and it shall be opened unto me, my God shall supply all my needs according to His riches in Glory, and countless others. Have a happy life. (oops, maybe I shouldn't say that....:laugh

 

[webdog]

I'll go on believing God's promises which say by His (Jesus) stripes I am healed, ask and I shall receive, knock and it shall be opened unto me, my God shall supply all my needs according to His riches in Glory, and countless others. Have a happy life. (oops, maybe I shouldn't say that....:laugh

Like Osteen, you have taken these "promises" out of context and applied them to having, as you call it, a "happy life" (except for God supplying our NEEDS).

 

[annsni]

I'd prefer not to base anything about Joel Osteen by what Hank says on his site. Check this out, he's not exactly white as the driven snow...

http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Psychology/cri/law.htm

To each his own.

I'll go on believing God's promises which say by His (Jesus) stripes I am healed, ask and I shall receive, knock and it shall be opened unto me, my God shall supply all my needs according to His riches in Glory, and countless others. Have a happy life. (oops, maybe I shouldn't say that....:laugh

I see lawsuits which don't mean a hill of beans. If there was any criminal activity, then I think the law would have gotten involved which it didn't. Also, that information is over 13 years old - that's pretty deep digging.

Besides, what does that have to do with the facts of Joel Osteen and his false teaching?

 

[LadyEagle]

I see lawsuits which don't mean a hill of beans. If there was any criminal activity, then I think the law would have gotten involved which it didn't. Also, that information is over 13 years old - that's pretty deep digging.

Besides, what does that have to do with the facts of Joel Osteen and his false teaching?

Hey, you're the one who brought up Hank's web site, I didn't. You can believe JO has false teaching and others don't believe he does. So like I said, to each his own.

One of these days some of JO's harshest critics may go through a valley of despair over some personal tragedy and need some flicker of hope to brighten their day and find themselves tuning in. Life is strange like that. :godisgood:

 

[gb93433]

Osteen is soft on sin. But, when you feel beat up and spiritually down, he can pump some breath back into your lifeless, oft deflated ego, id, and super ego. Still, Osteen is to the church what Obama is to the fanatics who have jumped on his political band wagon; and that is not a good thing!. :BangHead:

On the flip side. Some church oppress the people rather than disciple them.

So many churches today are program churches rather than building the church according to the gifts given them.

 

[LadyEagle]

Amen! :applause:

 

[Sopranette]

You're coming off as a fritened old man..

Sopranette

That should read,"frightened old man". What the hey, I'm tired, and tired of you of you, and of this board, anyway.

Sopranette

 

[J.D.]

On the flip side. Some church oppress the people rather than disciple them.

So many churches today are program churches rather than building the church according to the gifts given them.

I agree. But the thing to have is a scriptural balance. Two opposite extremes do not make a balanced middle.

 

[J.D.]

I'd prefer not to base anything about Joel Osteen by what Hank says on his site. Check this out, he's not exactly white as the driven snow...

http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Psychology/cri/law.htm

To each his own.

I'll go on believing God's promises which say by His (Jesus) stripes I am healed, ask and I shall receive, knock and it shall be opened unto me, my God shall supply all my needs according to His riches in Glory, and countless others. Have a happy life. (oops, maybe I shouldn't say that....:laugh

That's all right as long as you are not committing self-delusion, and you understand that the stripes of Jesus healed our broken relationship with God, ask and you shall receive any thing you ask according to His will, knock and it shall be opened but usually we don't know what "it" is until the door is already open and can't be closed, and God shall supply all your needs within the context of you being content in whatsoever state you are, whether abounding or abased.
I wish you well dear lady.

 

[LadyEagle]

That's all right as long as you are not committing self-delusion, and you understand that the stripes of Jesus healed our broken relationship with God, ask and you shall receive any thing you ask according to His will, knock and it shall be opened but usually we don't know what "it" is until the door is already open and can't be closed, and God shall supply all your needs within the context of you being content in whatsoever state you are, whether abounding or abased.
I wish you well dear lady.

Thank you and I do. And thanks for not misinterpreting what I was trying to say. :flower:

 

[pinoybaptist]

Osteen is soft on sin. But, when you feel beat up and spiritually down, he can pump some
breath back into your lifeless, oft deflated ego, id, and super ego. Still, Osteen is to the
church what Obama is to the fanatics who have jumped on his political band wagon; and that
is not a good thing!.

There you go again....Obama this, Obama that.
Sopranette

Osteen
Obama
Oprah....
Ozone
O what a mess we have!!

Okay....Obama says turn around.
Obama says stand on one foot.
Obama says hop like a kangaroo.
Sit down.
Ooops...gotcha. Obama didn't say!

Pretty soon, we'll all be hearing Obama this, Obama that. I'm already tired of it, and we're nowhere close to done!

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I love Baptists !!!

I will never be anything but one !!!!

 

[Revmitchell]

I don't know if JO has bad theology or not. I've never heard him preach any.

Osteen preaches another gospel

STORM: Last week, conservative right-wing pundit Ann Coulter made waves, she said, quote, "Christians consider themselves perfected Jews,"saying that it would be "a lot easier for Jews if they would become Christians." What did you make of her remarks?"

OSTEEN: Well, I think that, you know, Ann is a lot more out there. And, you know, I would never make a comment like that because I have some great Jewish friends, they believe in their faith, and we believe that, you know -- we don't believe exactly the same, but they're certainly not less than Christians.

Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them, "Rulers of the people and elders, if we are being examined today concerning a good deed done to a crippled man, by what means this man has been healed, let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead--by him this man is standing before you well. This Jesus is the stone that was rejected by you, the builders, which has become the cornerstone. And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved."
(Acts 4:8-12)

 

[TCGreek]

As I said before, the likes of Joel Osteen shouldn't take us by surprise. They are coming and they will keep coming.