In John 14:14 the modern versions allows us to pray to the Lord Jesus. The KJV lacks the word "Me".
Likewise in Revelation 14:1 the modern versions contain "His name" in reference to the Lord Jesus. The KJV lacks this important clause in that it is further proof that Christ is receiving latreuw (the worship that is due to God alone) in Revelation 22:3 (cf. Revelation 22:4).
Amen, Olivencia! Preach it!
]Really??? Let me give you 2 passages and other 2 passages for you to COMPARE. Not only NIV, but more modern versions showed.
John 8: 14 NIV
my testimony is valid
John 5:31 NIV
my testimony is not valid.
And compare here:
Genesis 2:17 NIV
you will surely die
Genesis 3:4 NIV
You will not surely die
NIV said Jesus' testimony is valid AND not valid. Better proof for the deity of Christ? No, no, nooo!
Great argument, Askjo! Excuse me for a moment while I sink it...
You falsely claim the NIV contradicts itself in John 5:31 and John 8:14. Of course if that makes the NIV an invalid Bible translation, then the KJVs are just as invalid.
If I beare witnesse of my selfe, my witnesse is not true. John 5:31 1611 KJV
Iesus answered, and said vnto them, Though I beare record of my selfe, yet my record is true: for I know whence I came, and whither I goe: but ye cannot tell whence I come, and whither I goe. John 8:14 1611 KJV
The Cambridge and Oxford KJVs agree with the 1611 KJV in both verses.
These are two totally different situations, Askjo, and Jesus makes two totally different statements. He does NOT contradict Himself. Read the verses in context instead of taking them out of context at the word of some KJVO writer - those KJVO writers will let you down every time.
Next...
You erroneously compare Gen 2:17 and Gen 3:4. Are you claiming these verses contradict one another in the NIV? If that's the case, the same contradiction is found in the KJVs.
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and euill, thou shalt not eate of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof, thou shalt surely die. Gen 2:17 1611 KJV
And the Serpent said vnto the woman, Ye shall not surely die. Gen 3:4 1611 KJV
Again, the Cambridge and Oxford KJVs agree with the 1611 KJV in these verses.
If you take the time to read these verses IN CONTEXT you'll see your error, Askjo. In the first verse, God is telling Adam and Eve not to eat the forbidden fruit or they will die. In the second verse, Satan is tempting Eve to eat the forbidden fruit. Satan coaxes Eve to eat the fruit by telling her exactly the opposite of what God has already said. The only contradiction in these two verses is Satan's contradiction of God's word.
Askjo, you really need to check your "facts" before you make such laughable assertions. Such cut-and-paste false assertions do absolutely nothing to support the KJVO position. In fact, such false assertions actually
damage the KJVO position.
BTW, when Eve took and ate of the forbidden fruit there is more than one sin evident. First, Eve doubted God's word that they would die if they ate the fruit. The second sin is that she actually reached out, took the fruit and ate it. The first sin recorded in the Bible wasn't eating the fruit - it was doubting God's word. KJVOs of today similarly doubt God's word in any translation that isn't one of the KJVs.
--> Thanks for addressing something that is not under discussion. What a complete waste of time and effort. Try to stick with the subject of THIS THREAD. That goes for you too Eliyahu. I made the assertion that these two passages show more clearly the deity of Christ in modern versions. What you have not done and can not do is to refute this assertion. Plain and simple. Deal with the facts. If you want to discuss other passages then start another thread and have fun. These two passages are the subject of THIS THREAD. Since you both made at least more than one post and have been utterly unable to refute what I have asserted simply reveals it is a lost cause trying to make either one of you admit to the obvious. The reason(s) for this is unclear but it usually comes down to pride.
Olivencia, it's quite typical of KJVOs to lay down smoke screens and to sidestep the issue. Show KJVOs like Askjo how a modern Bible translation reflects Christ's deity more than the KJVs in particular verses and they'll normally come up with some poor attempt to show something else supposedly wrong with modern translations. Askjo's supposed contradiction in the NIV is just one example of a KJVO ploy to denigrate modern Bible translations. If memory serves me correctly, Askjo has used this argument in the past only to have it blown apart. Maybe it wasn't Askjo, but another KJVO advocate. It doesn't matter - the argument is just as faulty no matter who presents it. It doesn't matter that the KJVs have the same supposed contradiction. Such false arguments show KJVO incinsistency. These false arguments do more to damage the KJVO position than to bolster it. I love it when KJVOs post such drivel because their arguments are so easily blown apart with Scripture.
