Judas really is a special case. Jesus said that he would lose none of those that the Father had given him. Jesus said that no one could snatch us out of the Father’s hand. Jesus also said “except the son of perdition that was to fulfill prophecy.” Judas, like Pharaoh, was raised to his position of authority specifically to fulfill God’s preordained plan for his destruction.
Judas is not to be held up as a “typical Christian”.
Did Judas believe?
Was Judas in fact DRAWN by God the Father?
Did Judas learn of the Father?
Did Judas have his heart of stone removed and a heart of flesh put in its place?
Was Judas dead in his sins and made alive by the gift of salvation by grace through faith not of himself, but a gift from God?
... or was the Son of Perdition merely a vessel created for destruction that God endured because even vessels of destruction serve their purpose in God’s plan?
He said he would lose non of them ( disciples ) that were given . My point is about what it doesn't say. Which is assumed ..its assumed all believed who were drawn . . Jesus said HE will draw ALL men to him when he be lifted up ( Attracted ) Does this also mean ALL believe also ?
Judas really is a special case. Jesus said that he would lose none of those that the Father had given him. Jesus said that no one could snatch us out of the Father’s hand. Jesus also said “except the son of perdition that was to fulfill prophecy.” Judas, like Pharaoh, was raised to his position of authority specifically to fulfill God’s preordained plan for his destruction.
Judas is not to be held up as a “typical Christian”.
Did Judas believe?
Was Judas in fact DRAWN by God the Father?
Did Judas learn of the Father?
Did Judas have his heart of stone removed and a heart of flesh put in its place?
Was Judas dead in his sins and made alive by the gift of salvation by grace through faith not of himself, but a gift from God?
... or was the Son of Perdition merely a vessel created for destruction that God endured because even vessels of destruction serve their purpose in God’s plan?
Judas is not a typical Christian you say ? Well none of John 6.44 is speaking about salvation in the Church age . Jesus hasn't gone to the cross yet . Acts 2 hasn't happened yet . The Holy Spirit is not given yet .
//Was Judas in fact DRAWN by God the Father? (Had to be according to the text . )
Did Judas learn of the Father? " (My sheep hear my voice ,you say )
Did Judas have his heart of stone removed and a heart of flesh put in its place? ( Ez 36.26 has nothing to do with any gentiies in 2020 . Its ISRAEL and its yet to happen. Read the verses . It is all about ISRAEL .)
Was Judas dead in his sins and made alive by the gift of salvation by grace through faith not of himself, but a gift from God?( Well the Holy Spirit was not sealing anyone until the day of redemption until after the resurrection. Nor was anyone ' born again ' until AFTER the resurrection )
