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John MacArthur - We are Not Saved by The Blood Of Jesus Christ!

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SavedByGrace

SavedByGrace

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Reformed1689 said:
Hardly true. You took something out of context and do not understand the atonement. Johnny Mac knows the Bible better than you probbly ever will.
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Again I will say this for the hard of understanding.

JM says that the shed blood of Jesus Christ doesn't save us

"Do you think that He (Jesus) had to bleed, no, not to save us" JM from the video clip

He also misquoted Romans 3.23 for Jesus when it is for SINNERS!
 
SavedByGrace

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"If Jesus had just bled, nobody would be saved. The wages of sin is not bleeding, the wages of sin is death" (from 35 seconds on)

WHAT has the BLOOD of Jesus Christ shed on the cross, got to do with Romans 6:23? This verse is speaking of OUR sins, that cause spiritual death, and has NOTHING to do with Jesus Christ BLEEDING!

Yet another MISAPPLICATION by MacArthur, which his followers are too blind to see and admit that this is WRONG!
 
Reformed1689

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SavedByGrace said:
"If Jesus had just bled, nobody would be saved. The wages of sin is not bleeding, the wages of sin is death" (from 35 seconds on)

WHAT has the BLOOD of Jesus Christ shed on the cross, got to do with Romans 6:23? This verse is speaking of OUR sins, that cause spiritual death, and has NOTHING to do with Jesus Christ BLEEDING!

Yet another MISAPPLICATION by MacArthur, which his followers are too blind to see and admit that this is WRONG!
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And Johnny Mac is the one that doesn't understand Scripture? Oh brother.
 
SavedByGrace

SavedByGrace

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Reformed1689 said:
And Johnny Mac is the one that doesn't understand Scripture? Oh brother.
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show HOW Romans 6:23 which is about OUR sins, and OUR spiritual death, have anything to do with Jesus shedding His blood? He clearly says that "the wages of sin is not bleeding", but "death". It is Jesus' BLEEDING is that saves the spiritual dead, and has nothing to do with this verse.

Now shows how I am wrong?
 
Reformed1689

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SavedByGrace said:
show HOW Romans 6:23 which is about OUR sins, and OUR spiritual death, have anything to do with Jesus shedding His blood? He clearly says that "the wages of sin is not bleeding", but "death". It is Jesus' BLEEDING is that saves the spiritual dead, and has nothing to do with this verse.

Now shows how I am wrong?
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I'm going to ask you a very simple question. If Jesus only had to bleed, why did he die?
 
SavedByGrace

SavedByGrace

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Reformed1689 said:
I'm going to ask you a very simple question. If Jesus only had to bleed, why did he die?
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The Sacrifice requirement in the Old Testament, which is for the Atonement that Jesus made, requires the death, of the animal that was being sacrificed. However, the death alone could not make Atonement, which is only possible with the shedding of the blood of the animal, which is a type of what Jesus Christ did on the cross. No blood-shed, no Atonement, no Atonement, no salvation possible. This is Scripture

Leviticus 17:11, "For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood that makes atonement for the soul"

Hebrews 9:12, "He entered once for all into the holy places, not by means of the blood of goats and calves but by means of His own BLOOD, thus securing an eternal redemption"

verse 22, "Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with BLOOD, and without the shedding of BLOOD there is no forgiveness of sins"
 
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AustinC

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sbg has me on ignore. I provided the text and the explanation for him, thus providing the "prove to me" that he requires.
I then explained that he is holding to the magic blood theory.
Someone else will need to comvey that to him. But, truth be told, sbg would rather live on an island of his own making than consider his position might be wrong.
Perhaps the best thing is for the moderators to lock this thread and explain to sbg why the thread is locked.
 
SavedByGrace

SavedByGrace

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Reformed1689 said:
I'm going to ask you a very simple question. If Jesus only had to bleed, why did he die?
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now show from Scripture what JM says is correct

"Do you think that He (Jesus) had to bleed, no, not to save us"

this is slavation without the Blood of Jesus Christ being shed!
 
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