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Judge Blocks Donald Trump’s Executive Order On Sanctuary Cities

Revmitchell

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Same Judge gave 200,000 to Obama campaign, help raised up another 35,000. so he is impartial than?

Sorry brother this cannot be true. See as has been stated already by someone else this judge is a conservative. We know he is a conservative because Bush appointed him and if Bush appointed him then there is no way he could be anything else other than conservative. So you must be wrong as we know no conservative would give money to the Obama campaign.
 

Brent W

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That doesn't make them conservative. In fact Bush was little to no conservative. He was a big spender and very liberal on a great many things. Who they are appointed by is not pure evidence of their being conservative or liberal.

He is a conservative judge to me. Apparently your idea of conservative is far far different than mine and maybe we will just have to accept that you are on the far far far right of conservative and we will never see the same on this.




Withholding funds is to blame on those who are not obeying the laws. Not the agency demanding laws be obeyed.

100 cities is irrelevant. Whether it is one city or 100 the way in which it is handled should be the same. It is not his justice department. It is the law of the land which was in place long before his justice department.

I have no objections to punishing cities or states who are not upholding what they should be doing. I do, however, have a problem with an Authoritarian President who has consistently tried to rule unilaterally. I will always be on the side of caution when it comes to having a President such as the one we do and I am more than happy to accept that this was done for the reasons you mentioned should the Supreme Court choose to hear this and rule in that way.



Wasn't intended as a shot just stating a fact. I am not sure you could recognize a conservative principle. I have not seen anything of you that would let me know you understand them.

I see that as a flaw on your end if you can not understand how someone who wishes to have checks and balances of an Authoritarian President who has consistently ruled unilaterally since elected and continues to speak in such tones, as a conservative principle.
 

Brent W

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Sorry brother this cannot be true. See as has been stated already by someone else this judge is a conservative. We know he is a conservative because Bush appointed him and if Bush appointed him then there is no way he could be anything else other than conservative. So you must be wrong as we know no conservative would give money to the Obama campaign.

This is not the Judge I was referring to. Please read and understand what I am saying before replying. My reference to the conservative Judge was Judge James Robart, the first Judge that ruled Trump's immigration ban was unconstitutional. I was very clear in this when I posted about the Conservative Judge who stopped the immigration ban earlier. Can not possibly be anymore clear than the plain text that is in this thread.

An actual Conservative judge is the one who started the entire immigration ban issue! On top of that, that ruling caused the Trump administration to revise their executive order instead of fighting it.

Can someone please explain to me how a conservative Judge is responsible for liberal Judicial activism????
 

Revmitchell

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President Trump is "rogue". Far left extremist talking points
He is a conservative judge to me. Apparently your idea of conservative is far far different than mine and maybe we will just have to accept that you are on the far far far right of conservative and we will never see the same on this.






I have no objections to punishing cities or states who are not upholding what they should be doing. I do, however, have a problem with an Authoritarian President who has consistently tried to rule unilaterally. I will always be on the side of caution when it comes to having a President such as the one we do and I am more than happy to accept that this was done for the reasons you mentioned should the Supreme Court choose to hear this and rule in that way.





I see that as a flaw on your end if you can not understand how someone who wishes to have checks and balances of an Authoritarian President who has consistently ruled unilaterally since elected and continues to speak in such tones, as a conservative principle.

Because calling him rogue and authoritarian is far left talking point
 

Brent W

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President Trump is "rogue". Far left extremist talking points


Because calling him rogue and authoritarian is far left talking point

It is actually a Libertarian view. One would understand that if you didn't think in Left vs Right 100% of the time.
 

Brent W

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He is just doing what is legal to do, despite that ignorant liberal judge!

Where did you get your Law degree from and on what authority can you rule that to be a true statement? A Federal Judge says otherwise and until another court or the Supreme Court overrules, President Trump is right now unable to put his action into place.

You disagreeing with it, fortunately for America, is not the law of the land. Time will tell and maybe you will be right. Right now, what is Legal is the Judge's ruling.
 

Revmitchell

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It is actually a Libertarian view. One would understand that if you didn't think in Left vs Right 100% of the time.

Libertarians are liberal they are just a different breed of liberal However the language you are employing is in fact far left talking points. Whether you are a libertarian or not that remains true.
 

Revmitchell

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Where did you get your Law degree from and on what authority can you rule that to be a true statement? A Federal Judge says otherwise and until another court or the Supreme Court overrules, President Trump is right now unable to put his action into place.

A federal judge from the most over turned and the most extremely left political court in the land over turned it via judicial activism.
 

Yeshua1

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Sorry brother this cannot be true. See as has been stated already by someone else this judge is a conservative. We know he is a conservative because Bush appointed him and if Bush appointed him then there is no way he could be anything else other than conservative. So you must be wrong as we know no conservative would give money to the Obama campaign.
President Bush might have appointed him, but he is on the 9th court, most liberal and biased court in USA!
 

Yeshua1

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Where did you get your Law degree from and on what authority can you rule that to be a true statement? A Federal Judge says otherwise and until another court or the Supreme Court overrules, President Trump is right now unable to put his action into place.

You disagreeing with it, fortunately for America, is not the law of the land. Time will tell and maybe you will be right. Right now, what is Legal is the Judge's ruling.
His own ruling will be found to be illegal, and the AG already can block those 3 grants to those states!
 

Brent W

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Libertarians are liberal they are just a different breed of liberal However the language you are employing is in fact far left talking points. Whether you are a libertarian or not that remains true.

I don't really care. If you want to label me something that is on you. My talking points are of mine and mine only. If others have them as well, good deal. You may get a sense of accomplishment with putting people down who you disagree with by calling them left wing or liberal but it doesn't phase me.

The wonderful thing about a political discussion online is that I rarely expect to change anyones opinion who I am directly engaging in, most likely because of the extreme bias that they hold, whether it be left or right. I enjoy putting my views out there so that others can come in and read and make their own conclusions.

Whether my views are left talking points or not isn't a concern of mine but it obviously is to you. To others? That is up to them to read through each post and make their own conclusion.

What I do know as fact is that right now, the legal ruling is that the President can not remove that funding. Should it be overturned at a higher court, then that would be the legal ruling. I personally enjoy this check in the system because our President is an authoritarian. Simple, concise and others are free to take my posts as they wish.
 

Brent W

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His own ruling will be found to be illegal, and the AG already can block those 3 grants to those states!

Good for you if that is the case! You can enjoy your win and all will be right in the world. Either way, the check was there and I will be happy with the outcome no matter what.
 

Yeshua1

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I don't really care. If you want to label me something that is on you. My talking points are of mine and mine only. If others have them as well, good deal. You may get a sense of accomplishment with putting people down who you disagree with by calling them left wing or liberal but it doesn't phase me.

The wonderful thing about a political discussion online is that I rarely expect to change anyones opinion who I am directly engaging in, most likely because of the extreme bias that they hold, whether it be left or right. I enjoy putting my views out there so that others can come in and read and make their own conclusions.

Whether my views are left talking points or not isn't a concern of mine but it obviously is to you. To others? That is up to them to read through each post and make their own conclusion.

What I do know as fact is that right now, the legal ruling is that the President can not remove that funding. Should it be overturned at a higher court, then that would be the legal ruling. I personally enjoy this check in the system because our President is an authoritarian. Simple, concise and others are free to take my posts as they wish.
The point is that IF a liberal wanted to do the very same thing, that Judge would have given 2 big claps and a thumbs up!
 

Brent W

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Wasn't talking to you and it was said in jest.

Jest or Sarcasm? Either way, when you said it you were quoting me. I just feel like if you want to have a good political discussion, take it seriously. Don't bring sarcasm or anything else in that can inflame an already touchy subject. Just my opinion.
 
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