Judge deals NSA defeat on bulk phone collection

[Revmitchell]

A federal judge ruled Monday that the National Security Agency's bulk collection of phone records likely violates the Constitution, in a major setback for the controversial spy agency.

U.S. District Court Judge Richard Leon granted a preliminary injunction sought by plaintiffs Larry Klayman and Charles Strange. However, he also stayed his decision "pending appeal," giving the U.S. government time to fight the decision over the next several months.

The judge wrote that he expects the government to "prepare itself to comply with this order when, and if, it is upheld."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/12/16/judge-deals-nsa-defeat-on-bulk-phone-collection/

 

[Crabtownboy]

A federal judge ruled Monday that the National Security Agency's bulk collection of phone records likely violates the Constitution, in a major setback for the controversial spy agency.

U.S. District Court Judge Richard Leon granted a preliminary injunction sought by plaintiffs Larry Klayman and Charles Strange. However, he also stayed his decision "pending appeal," giving the U.S. government time to fight the decision over the next several months.

The judge wrote that he expects the government to "prepare itself to comply with this order when, and if, it is upheld."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/12/16/judge-deals-nsa-defeat-on-bulk-phone-collection/

Do you agree with the judge's decision?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Best just to discuss facts and leave the personal stuff out of it.

 

[Revmitchell]

This is a good decision

 

[Crabtownboy]

This is a good decision

Remember your stance on this and do not criticize or whine and cry when a terrorist group pulls off a successful attack in the future because NSA's hands were tied.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

Remember your stance on this and do not criticize or whine and cry when a terrorist group pulls off a successful attack in the future because NSA's hands were tied.

The NSA's ability to track foreign terrorists is not limited or terminated by the decision. What would be terminated, if upheld on appeal, is the NSA's unnecessary and illegal gathering of personal cell phone and computer use by U.S. citizens in the confines of the country.

 

[Don]

Remember your stance on this and do not criticize or whine and cry when a terrorist group pulls off a successful attack in the future because NSA's hands were tied.

CTB, you should try reading a little more closely:

But in his a 68-page, heavily footnoted opinion, Leon concluded that the government didn't cite a single instance in which the program "actually stopped an imminent terrorist attack."

Your knee-jerk reaction, instead of reacting to what the judge actually stated, shows that you prefer to live in a state of fear; you are the epitome of "those willing to trade their freedom for security deserve neither and will lose both."

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Remember your stance on this and do not criticize or whine and cry when a terrorist group pulls off a successful attack in the future because NSA's hands were tied.

So I guess your views have "evolved" since you made this post......

You may think that you do, but you don't. Have you really looked at what Homeland Security can do to you if they want?

I suggest that you read the Patriot Act and become familiar with its provisions before saying "I have as many rights now as before 9/11."

http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=50606&highlight=patriot&page=9

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Here's another one.....

Probably will have to start by repealing the Patriot Ac(sic) to start "taking America back."

http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=51959&highlight=patriot&page=2

 

[Zenas]

A federal judge ruled Monday that the National Security Agency's bulk collection of phone records likely violates the Constitution, in a major setback for the controversial spy agency.

U.S. District Court Judge Richard Leon granted a preliminary injunction sought by plaintiffs Larry Klayman and Charles Strange. However, he also stayed his decision "pending appeal," giving the U.S. government time to fight the decision over the next several months.

The judge wrote that he expects the government to "prepare itself to comply with this order when, and if, it is upheld."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/12/16/judge-deals-nsa-defeat-on-bulk-phone-collection/

This judge understands the Constitution, something that Obama and his minions neither care for nor understand.

 

[Revmitchell]

This judge understands the Constitution, something that Obama and his minions neither care for nor understand.

I think Obama understands it he just doesn't care. And I fully believe all the data collection is more about information for the DNC operatives and political motivations than it is about safety.

Obama is a liar and the son of the father of it. He would without doubt sell our constitution down the river for his political agenda. He is evil.

 

[poncho]

Latest Leak Shows NSA Engaging In Economic Espionage -- Not Fighting Terrorism

from the flying-pigs dept

As more and more information about the NSA's global surveillance capabilities emerges through leaks of material obtained by Edward Snowden, the US authorities have been playing the terrorist card heavily. That is, they concede that they have been spying on pretty much everyone, but claim that it was only to fight terrorism, and thus to save lives. In particular, the NSA insists it is not spying on anyone for the purposes of industrial espionage -- here's what it wrote in an email to the Washington Post on the subject just a couple of weeks ago:

CONTINUE . . .

 

[Sapper Woody]

Remember your stance on this and do not criticize or whine and cry when a terrorist group pulls off a successful attack in the future because NSA's hands were tied.

The regulations and safety guidelines put into action to "stop terrorism" means that the terrorists have already won. TSA is a prime example. The power they wield and what they are allowed to do is downright disgusting. When an entire country's citizenship becomes suspect, the terrorists have won.

Don't get me wrong. Safety and security have their place. But they've taken their proper place and moved from it to take too much control. Body scanners? Frisking? Too much.