Judge Roy Moore for Governor of Alabama

OK. Let's assume for arguments sake that Moore lied.

You, I am assuming are voting for Riley. Please correct me if I am wrong. Riley lied about the tax proposal. He said that we would have to put people out of nursing homes, schools would close, etc. if we did not pass the tax increase. The tax increase was the only way to prevent this from happening. Well, the tax increase was defeated soundly and what do you know, none of the doom and gloom from the Hubbard camp came to pass. Riley cowered to Hubbard and he lied. He certainly has done a lot to end business as usual in Alabama politics.(G):laugh:

Riley continues to lie in a political ad that I saw on TV the other day. He says that he is tough on the illegal immigration issue. Can someone tell me what he has done that has any teeth? He is not prosecuting businesses for hiring illegals. He is not deporting any one, or transporting them to the state line. He is a liar plain and simple.

I agree with KenH on the Moore issue. I do not believe Moore violated the US Constitution, but I feel he should have removed the monument according to the Federal Court Order. He could have appealed and if he had won, he could have placed the monument back in the facility with his head held high. If he had lost, he would have been seen in a more favorable light.

Having said that, I believe Moore has demonstrated that he is not afraid of a fight. We need someone to stand up to Paul Hubbard and the AEA. They are the real power in this state. If we ever want to achieve a better educational record in this state (47-50 is not cutting it), then we will have to have someone who is unafraid of a fight.

 

HenH,

I will read more about Loretta Nall. I am OK with legalizing drugs, but I do not feel it is my responsibility to provide them with treatment in any way.

Treatment only works for those who want treatment. What do we do for those who refuse treatment, and some day become disabled due to their personal choices. The Government we have today would say that we must take care of them. I would wholeheartedly disagree. With choice comes responsibility. If you choose to destroy your life with drugs, tobacco, alcohol, etc., then you must deal with the consequences of your actions. It is not my place to pick up the pieces of your shattered life with my tax dollars.

 

When was he called upon to deny God? I haven't heard of that incident.

 

KenH,

I read Loretta Nall's platform, and I agree with a lot of it. However, there are two issues which will keep me from voting for her.

1.) She is for the naturalization of illegal immigrants. While she has a point that our hands are tied somewhat until the border issue is resolved, I do not think rewarding illegal behavior is ever a good idea.
2.) She supports Gay marriage. Since we have tax laws based on peoples marriage status, I believe the federal and state governments have every right under the present tax code to define what a marriage is.

Other than those two issues, I could have voted for her. I still have questions about her drug stance, but the other issues are so aggregious that I don't consider a viable candidate anymore.

I still don't know if I will support Roy Moore, but I will give him a look. The problem is there is no choice. They all are tainted in some way.

 

THat wasnt a call to deny GOd - it was a simple question.

No one here has been asked to deny God, no matter what the hype

 

You must have missed the caterwauling going on outside the justice building when the thing was being carted off.

Yes, and? My point in all of this is that the Word of God is Jesus Christ. The Bible, while inspired and authoritative, is a book, including the Big Ten. God's ultimate revelation of God is in Jesus Christ. Making a monument, rather than the Person of Christ, the central focus is, in short, idolatrous.

 

Whatever.

Look, with the possible exception of Nall, there isn't a human being in Alabama politics who doesn't think God wants you to vote for them, and they'll co-opt the Name in a second if it will get them votes.

It is a sad fact that no one who has any shred of electability in this state is going to stand up to Hubbard or any of the Good Old Boys. No one.

And as for my vote, if the only choice in the election was between a muddy old stick and Roy Moore, I'd vote for the former.

 

I agree with you that there is not much of a choice. I may have to not vote in that particular race.

 

Why should one read a book to learn what is obvious already?

Moore is a Fundamentalist and Conservative, and as such only those who are Godly agree with him, and any who attack him are persecuting his faith.

 

Lots of first-person-singular statements I would imagine.

Perhaps I will someday, but it frankly interests me less than not at all at the moment.

 

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Is the book going to make me, a Reformed Protestant who is moving quickly away from his original Fundamentalism, think any more of Moore?

 

After its closure you can open another one if you think there is enough interest to maintain it