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Judge rules that the U.S. Pledge of Alligiance is Unconsitutional
Are you going to care less when the 9th Circut COurt of Appeals rules that it is not Constiutional for us to read our Bibles? I wouldn't be shocked if the 9th Circut COurt ruled that way.
Faithgirl
Terry_Herrington
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Are you going to care less when the 9th Circut COurt of Appeals rules that it is not Constiutional for us to read our Bibles? I wouldn't be shocked if the 9th Circut COurt ruled that way.
Faithgirl </font>[/QUOTE]Ignorant assumption. You know that no court is going to rule that you cannot read your Bible.
That is beside the point. The Pledge Of Allegence has been said by countless people since under God was introduced in 1955. It has not damaged them. Saying under God will not damage anyone else for that matter.
Are you going to care less when the 9th Circut COurt of Appeals rules that it is not Constiutional for us to read our Bibles? I wouldn't be shocked if the 9th Circut COurt ruled that way.
Faithgirl </font>[/QUOTE]Ignorant assumption. You know that no court is going to rule that you cannot read your Bible. </font>[/QUOTE]Terry, with the way this country is headed, nothing would shock me. Fifty years ago, it would have been outragous to think that Gays would have civil unions. Look at what is happening in Mass.
NaasPreacher (C4K)
Well-Known Member
That is beside the point. The Pledge Of Allegence has been said by countless people since under God was introduced in 1955. It has not damaged them. Saying under God will not damage anyone else for that matter. </font>[/QUOTE]True, but how is saying "under God" going to help those who don't believe it?
Growing up in school we said the pledge every morning and from my perspective I don’t think anyone really realized what we were saying anyway. Saying the pledge was something we robotically said every day. Personally I was more worried about my algebra exam later in the day or trying to impress that girl in my 5th period class than what was reciting.
The problem is with the adults.
The problem is with the adults.
Are you going to care less when the 9th Circut COurt of Appeals rules that it is not Constiutional for us to read our Bibles? I wouldn't be shocked if the 9th Circut COurt ruled that way.
Faithgirl </font>[/QUOTE]I honestly don't see how that could happen with our Constitution.
But, at the risk of sounding like I have a martyr complex. . . if they want to take my Bible, then they can just throw me in jail. My faith is not in human law or courts; it is in God.
If they tried to take my Bible, would I oppose them? Of course. But this? It is seriously not something I care to fight.
I submit to everyone the following:
1) God is not pleased by vain repetition.
2) Saying "under God" in the pledge has almost no true value with respect to the Almighty. Those who are believers already honor God, and saying "under God" won't make believers out of the others.
3) God is not so limited as to need something like the pledge of allegiance to accomplish his will. God doesn't require a sympathetic government; in fact, God worked under a hostile government from the git-go. Christianity still grew.
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Saying "under God" doesn't make one iota of a difference in the long run. If anyone is worried about national judgment, note that God isn't typically concerned without outward appearance (i.e. the pledge), he's concerned about the heart. If there is national judgment coming, then the only way for America to avert it is to repent and to trust in God. The pledge will not cause this, nor will the lack of "under God" hinder it.
Do you look over as many message boards as your time allows for issues you "couldn't care less" about in order to post that? If not, why are you posting it here? </font>[/QUOTE]I couldn't care less that the pledge is being struck down. It's not that I'm not interested in hearing about it. It just doesn't bother me that they struck down "under God" in the pledge.
According to atheistic activists, taking the phrase “under God” out of the pledge makes it more inclusive for the wide ranging beliefs of the people in our country.
Atheists and polytheists (Hindus) could recite the pledge without a problem.
HOWEVER, what are they going to do with the constitution? Does it need revising now?
The basis for our separation from England is that GOD gave us certain inalienable rights!
If we disavow our Creator we also disavow the reason this republic was formed.
Rob
Atheists and polytheists (Hindus) could recite the pledge without a problem.
HOWEVER, what are they going to do with the constitution? Does it need revising now?
The basis for our separation from England is that GOD gave us certain inalienable rights!
If we disavow our Creator we also disavow the reason this republic was formed.
Rob
NaasPreacher (C4K)
Well-Known Member
The Constitution needs no revision, it never mentions God.
The inclusion of "Under God" in the pledge suggests an exclusivity that just is not there, ALL nations are under God, every single one.
The inclusion of "Under God" in the pledge suggests an exclusivity that just is not there, ALL nations are under God, every single one.
T
TexasSky
Guest
I was thinking about this a lot the other day.
When the words "under God" were added, this country was more respectful of God. If you were a good person, you attended church. You taught the 10 commandments in schools and in private homes, and it was a given that they were the basis for deciding what was right and what was wrong.
It wasn't perfect. There were a lot of hypocrites, and a lot of pretend-Christians, but all in all, speaking up for Christ was something the average American expected other Americans to do.
Now - we don't respect Him.
So, while we ARE under Him, we, as a nation, don't respect Him. So maybe those words in the pledge, if they refer to the whole nation, are a lie.
When the words "under God" were added, this country was more respectful of God. If you were a good person, you attended church. You taught the 10 commandments in schools and in private homes, and it was a given that they were the basis for deciding what was right and what was wrong.
It wasn't perfect. There were a lot of hypocrites, and a lot of pretend-Christians, but all in all, speaking up for Christ was something the average American expected other Americans to do.
Now - we don't respect Him.
So, while we ARE under Him, we, as a nation, don't respect Him. So maybe those words in the pledge, if they refer to the whole nation, are a lie.
NaasPreacher (C4K)
Well-Known Member
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