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Van

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American history has lots of wonderful actions by those who founded and expanded our nation. But at the same time, history records lots of horrific actions by those who fought against Christian principle such as equality before the law. How did we expand our boundaries? Did we, our European ancestors, not take the land from the native peoples using guile and guns? Did we not enslave humans who did not share our skin color? Did we not toss our the presumption of innocence and throw Japanese Americans into interment camps. Or use "small pox" against native peoples?

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether this nation will vote to continue using Christian principles, or be seduced by the dark side of might makes right.
 
AVL1984

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Van said:
LOL, still no position stated or specifically referenced.
I think we should celebrate "Freedom Day" on December 6 to commemorate adoption of the 13th Amendment of the Constitution.
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Reading and comprehnsion don't seem to be your strong suits according to posts here and in other threads....You're not worth my time or effort. Have a nice life....NOTE: Van will HAVE to reply...he won't be able to help himself...so, he'll be talking to the wind.
 
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AVL1984 said:
Reading and comprehension don't seem to be your strong suits according to posts here and in other threads....You're not worth my time or effort. Have a nice life....NOTE: Van will HAVE to reply...he won't be able to help himself...so, he'll be talking to the wind.
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LOL, still no position stated or specifically referenced.
I think we should celebrate "Freedom Day" on December 6 to commemorate adoption of the 13th Amendment of the Constitution.

American history has lots of wonderful actions by those who founded and expanded our nation. But at the same time, history records lots of horrific actions by those who fought against Christian principle such as equality before the law. How did we expand our boundaries? Did we, our European ancestors, not take the land from the native peoples using guile and guns? Did we not enslave humans who did not share our skin color? Did we not toss our the presumption of innocence and throw Japanese Americans into interment camps. Or use "small pox" against native peoples?

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether this nation will vote to continue using Christian principles, or be seduced by the dark side of might makes right.
 
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AVL1984 said:
Like you have the right to tell anyone what is and what isn't off-topic. You have no authority whatsoever here. Geesh!.
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On and on folks, one petty personal remark after another, but nothing similar to post #67.
 
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AVL1984 said:
Your doctrine is that of Calvin. It is what it is!
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If John Calvin taught the gospel of Christ, then I am glad that he and I are in agreement on the subject, as there is no salvation outside of the gospel of Christ.
 
AVL1984

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Life is so much better with the "ignore" feature! Told y'all he was the typical narcissist...Bye, Van! LOL
 
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What would it take to equitably address the nations obligations to the native people living today? Could we nullify our "treaties" with so called "Indian Nations or Confederacies?" Could we sell the "Indian Reservations" to those occupying the land?
Do we all not see our policy treats some citizens differently because of their actual or claimed genetic linage.

Freedom Day seems an obvious action to address part of our historical error, but alas, I am unable to think of how to end the ongoing treatment or mistreatment of native peoples.
 
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AVL1984 said:
Nowhere have I stated that it's an "endorsement of slavery." That's your understanding of what I said, proving once again comprehension is not something common here. I'm finding more and more people like to put their own twist on what others have said, or they totally disregard what was actually stated. The sad fact is that slavery occurs in all societies, either in the past, present, or will happen in the future. God uses it to accomplish his own purposes, and he gives instructions to those who are slave owners, and to the slave themselves if they are believers.
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Although my post quoted yours, I did not wish to infer that you had claimed the passage was an endorsement of slavery. I apologize for using that phrase instead of one less accusative. That said, I'd appreciate comment (by anyone) on my views of Pauline passages concerning slavery.
 
AVL1984

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Piper said:
He said I had heretical beliefs. I know you from that other place, brother.
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That "other place?" PM me...I'm on far too many sites to try and guess. A LOT of people know me! LOL I don't make a secret of who I am.
 
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AVL1984 said:
Reading and comprehnsion don't seem to be your strong suits according to posts here and in other threads....You're not worth my time or effort. Have a nice life....NOTE: Van will HAVE to reply...he won't be able to help himself...so, he'll be talking to the wind.
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Ahhhh, you’ve just allowed your emotions run you.
 
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