Justification/ Man-Made Laws

[Charlie24]

Yep, that is exactly what Calvinism teaches, you can't lose your salvation, they own this doctrine.

The Holy Spirit is your down payment on your salvation until the resurrection.

Eph. 1:13-14

"In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory."

You are not made a purchased possession of Christ until the resurrection.

You do greatly err, my friend!

@JesusFan

Hopefully this will help you to understand.

God saves man body, soul and spirit.

If man holds to the end his faith in Christ, his body goes to the grave, the soul and spirit go to be with Him by the gift of the indwelling Holy Spirit through faith. The gift of the indwelling Holy Spirit is as Paul said, it is a down payment on your salvation through your faith.

The body is not yet saved, that is yet to come at the resurrection. That is when you are a complete purchased possession of Christ.

As the Scripture says, "we are made partakers of Christ if we hold the beginning of our conversation (our profession of faith) to the end."

 

[Van]

Yes sir, they most certainly did, they fell from their standing in God's grace.

But Paul was there, and there is always someone there provided by God, to show them their error.

Folks, note the artful avoidance of saying they "lost their salvation" to "fell from their "standing" in God's grace," rather than fell from advocating Christ's gospel of grace.

 

[Charlie24]

Folks, note the artful avoidance of saying they "lost their salvation" to "fell from their "standing" in God's grace," rather than fell from advocating Christ's gospel of grace.

Folks, note that falling from Grace is the loss of salvation. Here's an example.

2 Peter 2:20-22

"For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.

For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.

But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire."

Some will not accept the possibility of the loss of salvation even though it's starring them in the face.

 

[JesusFan]

@JesusFan

Hopefully this will help you to understand.

God saves man body, soul and spirit.

If man holds to the end his faith in Christ, his body goes to the grave, the soul and spirit go to be with Him by the gift of the indwelling Holy Spirit through faith. The gift of the indwelling Holy Spirit is as Paul said, it is a down payment on your salvation through your faith.

The body is not yet saved, that is yet to come at the resurrection. That is when you are a complete purchased possession of Christ.

As the Scripture says, "we are made partakers of Christ if we hold the beginning of our conversation (our profession of faith) to the end."

The saved/redeemed person soul/spirit goes right into presence of God at time of Physical death, body into grave, and at second coming event all aspects of ther person reunited and now in an imperishable physically glorified body

 

[JesusFan]

Yep, that is exactly what Calvinism teaches, you can't lose your salvation, they own this doctrine.

The Holy Spirit is your down payment on your salvation until the resurrection.

Eph. 1:13-14

"In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory."

You are not made a purchased possession of Christ until the resurrection.

You do greatly err, my friend!

We are right now the children of god, already seated up in high places with Christ, but awaiting the second coming to have the fullness of our inheritance, the glorified physical body ' as Jesus has NEVER lost one of his own

 

[JesusFan]

Folks, note that falling from Grace is the loss of salvation. Here's an example.

2 Peter 2:20-22

"For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.

For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.

But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire."

Some will not accept the possibility of the loss of salvation even though it's starring them in the face.

Those peo[ple peter described were the same as John stated, who were among us and with us, yet not of us, all were like Judas, never saved