No. Not correct. Please show me where the Bible says we will have physical bodies at any time after we die.
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K A T A R G E O : A Word often Mistranslated
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No. Not correct. Please show me where the Bible says we will have physical bodies at any time after we die.
Potato, potahto. You're telling us how we should translate a certain Greek word in every sense, applying your own theological bias AND an arbitrary and somewhat peurile notion of the meaning of consistency.
In short, you're committing the very sin of which you are accusing the translators.
OK. Whatever. It is not worth it to waste my time on someone determined to misunderstand what I write.
I answered his question. No, we will not be raised in physical bodies. The bodies that we bury will not be physically raised. Something better than merely physical bodies awaits believers.
Christ's resurrection had a purpose that ours doesn't have. It is not required for us to "fulfill all righteousness".
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Jesus was the first fruit of many bethren, he was the first to be resurrected, and his body is the very template for all saved!
We will be glorified now as he is in the same kind of body, as his body was SAME one he died in, and God just as God raised Hos physical body out of the grave amd transformed it, likewise we shall have that same happen to all of us at His second coming!
To deny the physical resuurection of the bodt at his second coming is heresy!
You have been taught this by tradition and by your church, but it is not in the Bible. I challenge you to show me anything like what you have said.
Lol! Good luck with that! Yesh doesn't supply references, he only parrots.
PreachTony
Active Member
AT, here's something I wrote in response to you in another thread, though it appears apropos here, as it can be tied to further discussion:
In this thread, you're written:
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The writer in Philippians wrote "For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself." (Phil 3:20-21)
Why state that Christ will change our vile body (this sinful shell we inhabit in our mortality) to be like "his glorious body" if there isn't, in fact, a physical resurrection?
In this thread, you're written:
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The writer in Philippians wrote "For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself." (Phil 3:20-21)
Why state that Christ will change our vile body (this sinful shell we inhabit in our mortality) to be like "his glorious body" if there isn't, in fact, a physical resurrection?
Greektim
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I'll give you an example.
In the SotM, Jesus says to cut out your eye or hand b/c it is better not to have those parts than to enter hell. Specifically, he says "your whole body be thrown into hell". If we understand the resurrection unto judgment to be something like that, then there is a physical body in eternity, albeit hell.
Compare this w/ Rev. 20 and the great white throne judgment where the "dead... standing" and then being thrown into hell. If we combine these, then they have a body being thrown into hell.
I am not arguing that we will not be individuals, just that we will not have bodies that are physical. We will be spiritual, as I wrote in the new thread on 1st Cor. 15.
Greektim
Well-Known Member
That is all well and good, but that passage I used talks about "flesh" and "bodies". And you have yet to comment on that.
We will all be changed to be just as jesus bodily form was/is still, and that one he said had flesh and bones, and was not a spirit!
You have adopted spiritual resurrection because you must to be a full pretierist, not due to what the bible actually teaches!
We will all be changed to be just as jesus bodily form was/is still, and that one he said had flesh and bones, and was not a spirit!
You have adopted spiritual resurrection because you must to be a full pretierist, not due to what the bible actually teaches!