Kabul=Saigon

[Agent47]

The graveyard of Empires takes no hostages

Zero lessons learnt in all these intervening decades between the two events:

 

[FollowTheWay]

We went into Afghanistan merely as an intermediate stop for sending troops to Iraq which was the Neo-Cons real objective. Bush said later we were no longer interestyed in finding bin Laden

 

[Martin Marprelate]

I believe the West will rue the day that it allowed the Taliban to take over Afghanistan.
It is very likely that al Qaeda will be back there very soon and that they will have a base for their operations to destabilize the -stans, including Pakistan which has nuclear weapons.

Other things likely to happen are taliban conflict with Iran and China and increased extremist Muslim involvement in Africa.

Of course all these things are in God's hands and are likely to be part of His chastisement of the West for its apostasy

 

[Agent47]

I believe the West will rue the day that it allowed the Taliban to take over Afghanistan.
It is very likely that al Qaeda will be back there very soon and that they will have a base for their operations to destabilize the -stans, including Pakistan which has nuclear weapons.

Other things likely to happen are taliban conflict with Iran and China and increased extremist Muslim involvement in Africa.

Of course all these things are in God's hands and are likely to be part of His chastisement of the West for its apostasy

I see Taliban going Hezbollah way. They will style up now that they so badly need approval of the world without which Afghanistan will burn

 

[Martin Marprelate]

I see Taliban going Hezbollah way. They will style up now that they so badly need approval of the world without which Afghanistan will burn

Time will tell. But if the best we can hope for is that they end up like Hezbollah, that doesn't strike me as great.
Just one other thought: ten years after America withdrew from Vietnam, the Soviet Union collapsed and the West won the Cold War. History doesn't always work out the way one might suppose.

 

[Agent47]

Time will tell. But if the best we can hope for is that they end up like Hezbollah, that doesn't strike me as great.
Just one other thought: ten years after America withdrew from Vietnam, the Soviet Union collapsed and the West won the Cold War. History doesn't always work out the way one might suppose.

why would you hope for anything?

Biggest lesson here is, imposing your values on another country is futility. Let Afghanistan be. They are far much worse off now than they were 20 years ago before the invasion. Same with Iraq.

 

[FollowTheWay]

I believe the West will rue the day that it allowed the Taliban to take over Afghanistan.
It is very likely that al Qaeda will be back there very soon and that they will have a base for their operations to destabilize the -stans, including Pakistan which has nuclear weapons.

Other things likely to happen are taliban conflict with Iran and China and increased extremist Muslim involvement in Africa.

Of course all these things are in God's hands and are likely to be part of His chastisement of the West for its apostasy

al Quaeda used the war we started in Irag as a training ground for themselves and ISIS. We made terrorism worse by fighting both those wars. But in reality, in the last several years we've had very few internatinal Muslim terrorist attacks in America. Most have been done by far-right (pro-Trump) extremists.

 

[Marooncat79]

The preempt at NAIT back in the day in Plainfield IN prevented much

trump supporters have done nothing like Antifa and BLM

get your facts straight

 

[Martin Marprelate]

why would you hope for anything?

Biggest lesson here is, imposing your values on another country is futility. Let Afghanistan be. They are far much worse off now than they were 20 years ago before the invasion. Same with Iraq.

Whether Afghans are 'far worse off' than they were 20 years ago is yet to be seen. At the very least there is a generation of young women who have had the chance to be educated.
What Afghanistan needs is what the world needs - the Gospel. The Lord Jesus Christ said that He would build His Church and that the gates of hell would not prevail against it. Let's wait and see how He does that in Afghanistan, and how He might use us.