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Karl Rove Controversy Questions

ASLANSPAL

New Member
Every time I see Ken Melhman on TV these days
he looks like he is struggling with illness
he does not look good...does anyone know if
he is sick.

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He did go to the NAACP convention and extended
a Republican apology for being divisive in the
past ..I thought that gained him some points.

Rove learned from Lee Atwater and believe it or
not Clinton ..to have a defense and attack at the
same time...classic rove...only problem is , it
divides our country while he plays games with
our democracy.
 

Rocko9

New Member
George Soros made a major blunder today when his sponsored radio adds aired over major radio stations. In his add the statement is made something like this---"remember Karl Rove's name begins with a K as in the Klan". Soros should stay out this fracas and let it play out on its own, he didn't help any causes by injecting a taste of hatred in this add campaign.
 

KenH

Well-Known Member
Now that we know that Karl Rove was told about Plame by Novak, it is clear that this controversy is over. I have the following message for the Democrats and the liberal news media:

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KenH

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by Rocko9:
George Soros made a major blunder
Until the Democrats are able to diassociate themselves from Soros and the moveon.org crowd they will remain a minority party unable to win a national election.
 

Joseph_Botwinick

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Originally posted by KenH:
Now that we know that Karl Rove was told about Plame by Novak, it is clear that this controversy is over. I have the following message for the Democrats and the liberal news media:

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AGAIN!!!! I bet they are getting used to it by now.
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Joseph Botwinick
 

OldRegular

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by Sonjeo:
The Whitehouse said they would fire whoever was involved with this leak. They believed considering the circumstances that the person should be fired. The Whitehouse would not say this without considering the circumstances would they? So, that is it. Anyone having anything to do with this leak(revealing Wilson's wife's identity should be fired. Is the Whitehouse going to stand by their pledge or are they themselves too incompetent to have analyzed the situation properly. There will have to be alot of legal gymnastics used to free Rove of this Whitehouse pledge.
HOW DOES THE GOVERNMENT FIRE REPORTERS?
 

carpro

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I wonder who Fitzpatrick is really after. It could be a reporter. It could be a CIA employee. One thing is certain, he's putting reporters in jail for a reason.

http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050716/COLUMNIST14/507160304/-1/NEWS15

The Plame name game


WHY is special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald pursuing so zealously the outing of CIA officer Valerie Plame, since it is all but impossible to prove that the leaker or leakers committed a crime?


The Intelligence Identities Protection Act requires that the leaker learned the identity of a "covert agent" from authorized sources. And it requires that the leak be deliberate.

The law defines a "covert agent" as someone working undercover overseas, or who has done so in the last five years. Ms. Plame had operated under non-official cover, but was outed by CIA traitor Aldrich Ames, and has been manning a desk at CIA headquarters since 1997.

So why is Mr. Fitzgerald acting like Inspector Javert in Les Miserables? The answer may lie in a sentence Walter Pincus of the Washington Post wrote on June 12, 2003. First, some background:


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Mr. Wilson outed himself in an op-ed in the New York Times on July 6, 2003, "What I Didn't Find in Africa," which described his CIA-sponsored trip to Niger in 2002. On July 14, 2003, columnist Robert Novak wondered why Mr. Wilson, who had no intelligence background and strong anti-Bush views, had been selected for the Niger mission. "Two senior administration officials told me Wilson's wife suggested sending him to Niger to investigate the Italian report," he wrote. That set off the Plame name game.

Journalists lost interest when in July, 2004, the Senate Intelligence Committee concluded Mr. Wilson was lying about who sent him to Niger and what he learned there. Furthermore, the Butler Commission concluded reports that Saddam was trying to buy uranium were "well founded."

But by then the special prosecutor they'd sought had been appointed, and Mr. Fitzgerald was demanding testimony from two reporters, Matthew Cooper of Time magazine, who wrote a story about Ms. Plame, and Judith Miller of the New York Times, who didn't.

Journalistic interest revived when Mr. Cooper revealed his source was Bush political guru Karl Rove. Mr. Novak (the journalist who outed Ms. Plame) hasn't revealed his sources. But a fawning profile of Mr. Wilson and Ms. Plame in Vanity Fair in January, 2004, offers a clue:

"Wilson was caught off guard when around July 9 he received a phone call from Robert Novak who, according to Wilson, said he'd been told by a CIA source that Wilson's wife worked for the agency. "

Mr. Cooper is a free man because Mr. Rove gave him explicit permission to talk about their conversation. Ms. Miller is in jail because her source didn't, suggesting he or she is someone other than Mr. Rove.

Liberals want Mr. Rove's scalp. But the revelation Friday (if true) that Mr. Rove learned of Ms. Plame's occupation from a journalist makes it most unlikely that he could prosecuted successfully under the Identities Act.

Maybe Mr. Rove - or someone else - lied to the grand jury. Or maybe Mr. Fitzgerald is investigating a different crime.

What if someone in the CIA was leaking classified information to influence the 2004 election? Uncovering a crime like that would be worthy of Inspector Javert's doggedness.

I suspect the biggest shoe in this case has yet to drop, and liberal journalists won't be happy when it does.
 

StraightAndNarrow

Active Member
Originally posted by KenH:
I have a question for all of you liberals attacking Rove. If this was a White House official from the Clinton Administration, would you be defending this individual? Where was the outrage when Clinton lied during the Monica Lewinsky scandal?
Come on. You're a true blue supporter of the military and the CIA. What's worse than outing an undercover CIA opereative?
 

Dragoon68

Active Member
Originally posted by Pastor Larry:
Remember folks, at least those of you interested in the truth, there is no evidence that Rove knowingly outed a covert CIA operative. He did not give her name. He apparently told a reporter that he was about to print an incorrect story and suggested how he might find the correct information. There does not appear to be anything illegal or unethical about that, at least as of what we know right now.
Such a common sense evaluation of the facts at hand has no place in the liberal "Bush haters" agenda. It doesn't matter that Rove, from all available data, did absolutely nothing wrong and isn't being investigated for doing anything wrong. All that matters is that this story - with appropriate lies, exaggerations, and distortions added - is way to discredit President Bush and his administration and that's the agenda.

See CBS Airs One-Sided Anti-Rove Story; CNN Sees "Smear" of Wilson for an analysis of this typical liberally biased news reporting on this issue. They'll only stop this unjustified trashing when they find a better target.
 

OldRegular

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by StraightAndNarrow:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by KenH:
I have a question for all of you liberals attacking Rove. If this was a White House official from the Clinton Administration, would you be defending this individual? Where was the outrage when Clinton lied during the Monica Lewinsky scandal?
Come on. You're a true blue supporter of the military and the CIA. What's worse than outing an undercover CIA opereative? </font>[/QUOTE]The CIA operative wasn't undercover. Rove did not out her. Her sleazy husband probably did.

What is worse than outing a CIA undercover operative? emasculating the CIA as the democrats led by the Church Committee did in the 1970's.
 
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