Notice how he sets up a false standard (straw man) so he can shoot it down.
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Kerry in hot water for saying Israel "could become apartheid state"
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Notice how he sets up a false standard (straw man) so he can shoot it down.
I'm not an "Israel, right or wrong" guy, but don't 13 million Muslim Arabs live there ? In like, complete peace and harmony ?
How can they possibly be called an "apartheid" state ?
Kerry's a moron.
How can they possibly be called an "apartheid" state ?
Kerry's a moron.
Ah ha Ah ha......Haaaaaa Haaaaaaa! Oh Gads....
It is not 13 million more like 2 million but yes they do live within the boundaries of Israel and are Israeli nationals. And they do live in peace and harmony.
NaasPreacher (C4K)
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God's chosen and dispensationalism and prophecy and all that aside the Secretary of State made foolish statement here. Sec Kerry is hardly a statesman and this incident is just more evidence of it. To insult a trusted ally is just plain unwise.
Thank you. I've tried to quit exaggerating millions of times.
thisnumbersdisconnected
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Not bad ... Not too bad at all.
(There's a Whizzo button for anyone who can give me the movie reference.)
Egad people, a mole hill is being made into a mountain here.
Like Kerry, Senior Israeli Officials Have Warned Of Israel Becoming ‘An Apartheid State’
"A number of very senior Israeli officials have also warned that Israel risks becoming an apartheid-like state absent a two-state solution:
•2007 — then-Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert: “If the day comes when the two-state solution collapses, and we face a South African-style struggle for equal voting rights (also for the Palestinians in the territories), then, as soon as that happens, the State of Israel is finished.”
•2010 — then-Israeli Defense Minister and Former Prime Minister Ehud Barak: “The simple truth is, if there is one state” including Israel, the West Bank and Gaza, “it will have to be either binational or undemocratic. … if this bloc of millions of Palestinians cannot vote, that will be an apartheid state.”
•2013 — Israeli Justice Minister and Lead Peace Negotiator Tzipi Livni: “But the time has come for the same youth to ask, to what kind of state do they want to leave the gas reserves? To a Jewish democratic Israel? Or to a binational Arab state? Or to an apartheid state? It is impossible to deal with economic issues and to ignore the important diplomatic issues related to two states for two peoples.”..."
Like Kerry, Senior Israeli Officials Have Warned Of Israel Becoming ‘An Apartheid State’
"A number of very senior Israeli officials have also warned that Israel risks becoming an apartheid-like state absent a two-state solution:
•2007 — then-Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert: “If the day comes when the two-state solution collapses, and we face a South African-style struggle for equal voting rights (also for the Palestinians in the territories), then, as soon as that happens, the State of Israel is finished.”
•2010 — then-Israeli Defense Minister and Former Prime Minister Ehud Barak: “The simple truth is, if there is one state” including Israel, the West Bank and Gaza, “it will have to be either binational or undemocratic. … if this bloc of millions of Palestinians cannot vote, that will be an apartheid state.”
•2013 — Israeli Justice Minister and Lead Peace Negotiator Tzipi Livni: “But the time has come for the same youth to ask, to what kind of state do they want to leave the gas reserves? To a Jewish democratic Israel? Or to a binational Arab state? Or to an apartheid state? It is impossible to deal with economic issues and to ignore the important diplomatic issues related to two states for two peoples.”..."
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I will take "Exodus" for 100 please.
Will even give ya da soundtrack. Lace up your white bucks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw0FLzUKphw
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thisnumbersdisconnected
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Egad people, a mole hill is being made into a mountain here.
Like Kerry, Senior Israeli Officials Have Warned Of Israel Becoming ‘An Apartheid State’
"A number of very senior Israeli officials have also warned that Israel risks becoming an apartheid-like state absent a two-state solution:
•2007 — then-Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert: “If the day comes when the two-state solution collapses, and we face a South African-style struggle for equal voting rights (also for the Palestinians in the territories), then, as soon as that happens, the State of Israel is finished.”
•2010 — then-Israeli Defense Minister and Former Prime Minister Ehud Barak: “The simple truth is, if there is one state” including Israel, the West Bank and Gaza, “it will have to be either binational or undemocratic. … if this bloc of millions of Palestinians cannot vote, that will be an apartheid state.”
•2013 — Israeli Justice Minister and Lead Peace Negotiator Tzipi Livni: “But the time has come for the same youth to ask, to what kind of state do they want to leave the gas reserves? To a Jewish democratic Israel? Or to a binational Arab state? Or to an apartheid state? It is impossible to deal with economic issues and to ignore the important diplomatic issues related to two states for two peoples.”..."
Egad people, a mole hill is being made into a mountain here.
Like Kerry, Senior Israeli Officials Have Warned Of Israel Becoming ‘An Apartheid State’
"A number of very senior Israeli officials have also warned that Israel risks becoming an apartheid-like state absent a two-state solution:
•2007 — then-Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert: “If the day comes when the two-state solution collapses, and we face a South African-style struggle for equal voting rights (also for the Palestinians in the territories), then, as soon as that happens, the State of Israel is finished.”
•2010 — then-Israeli Defense Minister and Former Prime Minister Ehud Barak: “The simple truth is, if there is one state” including Israel, the West Bank and Gaza, “it will have to be either binational or undemocratic. … if this bloc of millions of Palestinians cannot vote, that will be an apartheid state.”
•2013 — Israeli Justice Minister and Lead Peace Negotiator Tzipi Livni: “But the time has come for the same youth to ask, to what kind of state do they want to leave the gas reserves? To a Jewish democratic Israel? Or to a binational Arab state? Or to an apartheid state? It is impossible to deal with economic issues and to ignore the important diplomatic issues related to two states for two peoples.”..."
"The secretary of state said that if Israel doesn’t make peace soon, it could become ‘an apartheid state,’ like the old South Africa."
Has anyone stopped to consider the truthfulness of the statement made by Kerry, or those made by senior Israeli officials?
I suppose 'wait and see' will bear it out one way or another, right? Time will tell.
Has anyone stopped to consider the truthfulness of the statement made by Kerry, or those made by senior Israeli officials?
I suppose 'wait and see' will bear it out one way or another, right? Time will tell.
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Now THAT is hateful.
Right--that is insulting to a hyena.
Could be. But it's not because of an accident of birth.
He has earned our scorn.
He should be in prison, not government.
How so? Kerry has only reiterated a warning that several of The Chosen themselves have already stated. Is your hatred of the Democrat party so overpowering that you're unable to come to grips with that? You wish to continue to make a mountain from this mole hill?
You're all wet. Has nothing to do with the democrat party.
Kerry should have been jailed over 40 years ago and, in accordance with the law, never allowed to hold any office.
Hyena is being kind.
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