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Khudayr Taher: Europe & America Should Deport all Muslims - Including Myself

Analgesic

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av1611jim said:
To be MUSLIM is to be a jihadist. It is not any different than this : To be Christian one must put their faith in the substitutionary work of Christ Jesus on the Cross. But if you SAY you are Christian just because you were born in a Christian home and that is all you know but have never placed you faith in Christ; you may claim christianity all day long but you are NOT Christian.

To be muslim is to be jihadist. And the so-called "moderates" know this. In addition, Muslims also know that their allegiance is NOT to their host country but rather it is to Islam. These 'citizens' will help to destroy this country if forced into a choice between Islam or US. And ISLAM is all about world domination.

To be a CHRISTIAN is to be a Catholic. It is not any different than this: To be Christian one must put their trust in the Pope to correctly interpret their faith in the substitutionary work of Christ Jesus on the Cross. If you SAY you are a Christian without trusting the Pope, you may claim Christianity all day long but you are NOT Christian.

To be Christian is to be a crusader. And the so-called "moderates" know this. In addition, Christians also know that their allegiance is NOT to their host country but rather it is to Christianity. These "citizens" will help to destroy this country if forced into a choice between Christianity or the US. And CHRISTIANITY is all about world domination.
 

Rufus_1611

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av1611jim said:
Perhaps you guys missed the bolded portion?

Yeesh! Don't you guys READ anything these days?

I read your "whiny cry baby" paragraph and it remains Draconian and an overreacting error. To incarcerate someone without cause and without due process is antithetical to a free society, even if you include your warm hearted efforts to deport the innocent ones and harmless ones to their homes. What of the Muslims that were born in the United States of America? Where is their home?
 

Rufus_1611

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Analgesic said:
To be a CHRISTIAN is to be a Catholic. It is not any different than this: To be Christian one must put their trust in the Pope to correctly interpret their faith in the substitutionary work of Christ Jesus on the Cross. If you SAY you are a Christian without trusting the Pope, you may claim Christianity all day long but you are NOT Christian.

To be Christian is to be a crusader. And the so-called "moderates" know this. In addition, Christians also know that their allegiance is NOT to their host country but rather it is to Christianity. These "citizens" will help to destroy this country if forced into a choice between Christianity or the US. And CHRISTIANITY is all about world domination.

To be a Catholic is to be a Catholic, to be a crusader is to be a Catholic. A Christian has faith in the saving grace of Jesus Christ not in a pope. Christianity awaits the return of the King of Kings to reign on earth in a heavenly kingdom, Catholicism historically has been, and I would suggest continues to be, about bringing in an earthly kingdom.

Pseudo off-topic questions...

If you are a Christian and think as you stated above are you all about world domination?

What Baptist church do you attend?

Why did you take the name of a drug intended to alleviate pain?
 

Analgesic

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Rufus_1611 said:
To be a Catholic is to be a Catholic, to be a crusader is to be a Catholic. A Christian has faith in the saving grace of Jesus Christ not in a pope. Christianity awaits the return of the King of Kings to reign on earth in a heavenly kingdom, Catholicism historically has been, and I would suggest continues to be, about bringing in an earthly kingdom.

Exactly.

As for the rest, you can always send me a PM.
 

pinoybaptist

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Deportation is the ONLY answer. Interment won't work. While the US is scratching its head and biting on the pencil figuring out who is what, and which is which, the terrorists inside the interment will get to work on their fellow Muslims and devise ways and means to avoid the "inquisition".

Deport all of them, including the naturalized citizens if they will not swear allegiance again, with their hands on their qu'ran, to the United States. Naturalization can be revoked.

As for the natural born ?

That is something that has to be dealt with very carefully.

The Muslim religion is a scourge, and until they reform themselves, and act gratefully to the country who provided them the things they cannot even dream of in their miserable lands (that thought according to the author himself) then they need to be dealt with as scourges.

My country has an ongoing Muslim rebellion, too, and I used to daydream that I were president, and have ordered all Muslims from everywhere in my country be brought back to the Muslim south and kept there, including Muslims in the police, armed services, and other government offices, fending for themselves, until their civilian population gave up the terrorists and rebels they were harboring among themselves, and publicly denounce rebellion against duly established government.

Don't make any mistakes about it.

The Muslim population in this country know a lot more than they are pretending to know.
 

LadyEagle

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I don't think there is much left of the land I departed from 13 years ago

There isn't. It's turning into an islamic nation. Schools and airports are installing foot washing places for muslims. Virtually every university has a Middle Eastern Studies program (jihad cells are optional, I suppose), the US has at least one mosque within a short driving distance nearly everywhere in America, even rural neighborhoods are being changed to accommodate mosque building, children in public schools are being taught jihad as a means of reaching out to multural culturalism, muslims are being elected to public office and taking the oath of office on a quran, muslims are successfully getting people fired who speak out against them, muslims now have their own postage stamps, muslims are in our military and police forces, muslims have their own chaplains in the military, muslim prisoners are prepared their own special kind of food at taxpayer expense, the US President invites muslims to come to the White House and bow down to allah in prayers, muslim (proven terrorists who are against America) are invited to speak in our National Cathedral and offer prayers to allah, and even have many opportunities to have the Presidential ear, and more....

First, we’ve begun to reach critical mass. By some figures, there are now more Muslims than Jews in the United States; by others, they will surpass Jews by 2010, making Islam the second-largest religion in the United States. And Muslims are increasing in prominence, as the high profile of Ellison and the Council on American-Islamic Relations indicates. (Or, for that matter, the tradition of inviting Muslim leaders to the White House to celebrate the start of Ramadan, begun by President Clinton and continued by President Bush.) And, as the principal of the Rockford Iqra School told us, September 11 itself led to a marked increase in visits of inquirers to the school and mosque.

Second, the massive increase in mosques in the United States over the past 15 years means that, as Mr. Ajjan puts it, there is likely a mosque within “reasonable driving distance” of many potential converts to Islam. As I wrote in the October 2005 issue of Chronicles (”Welcoming Muhammad: Abandoning That Which Is Our Own“):

Today, the U.S. State Department officially estimates the number of mosques in the United States at over 1,200, but that is based on a survey conducted in the late 1990’s; unofficial State Department estimates rise as high as 2,000. CNN notes that nearly 80 percent of those mosques have been built since 1990—after our first war with Iraq; of the rest, the bulk were built after the Islamic revolution in Iran.”

In other words, people who might have had a passing fancy in Islam in the past are now more able to convert that passing fancy to a real interest–and a real conversion.

Third, the heyday of the Nation of Islam has passed. This has had at least three effects: the migration of some NOI members, such as Shareef and Ellison, to traditional Islam; the tendency of new black converts to convert directly to traditional Islam; and, most importantly, an increasing sense among the general population that Islam in America is mainstream, not simply something that is confined to disaffected, predominantly urban blacks.

Fourth, the constant drumbeat by the Bush administration and the media that “Islam is a religion of peace” has made conversion (or even simply inquiry) much more socially acceptable.

None of this directly address Mr. Ajjan’s ultimate point, however, which I would summarize this way: Even if Muslim immigration were ended today, aren’t all the conditions in place to continue to encourage native-born conversions to Islam? The answer, sadly, is yes. What we need to look at, however, is the rate of conversion. If the presence of Muslims in America today is helping to drive conversions (as Mr. Ajjan concedes), why wouldn’t we expect that increasing numbers of immigrants (and the increasing number of mosques and schools that accompany them) would drive increasing numbers of conversions?

Or, to look at it from the opposite point of view: If American immigration policy treated adherence to Islam as grounds for automatic denial of entry to the United States, wouldn’t that be likely to counter the social acceptability of conversion to Islam, and thus decrease the number of converts and inquirers?

http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?m=200612

Roger, stay where you are and stay safe, where authorities can round terrorist thugs up and not have to bother with long court battles with the ACLU, CAIR, and liberal Neville Chamberlain clones. America is too politically correct for citizen safety--It's not the same country you left by any stretch of the imagination.
 

LadyEagle

<b>Moderator</b> <img src =/israel.gif>
For Americans who want to know the truth about islam in the West:


What the West Needs to Know trailer:
http://www.whatthewestneedstoknow.com/view_trailer.asp

Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against the West Trailer:
http://www.shoebat.com/trailer.php?PHPSESSID=a8af58dabeff45b57445e5daf3ae2136

http://www.americancongressfortruth.com/

http://www.jihadwatch.org/

http://www.intervarsity.org/ism/news/39

http://www.islamreview.com/

"Constitution for the new Islamic Republic of EU and USA is under construction.

We will fight the infidel to death.

Meanwhile American laws will protect us.

Democrats and leftist will support us.

UN (United Nations) will legitimize us.

CAIR will incubate us.

ACLU will empower us.

Western universities will educate us.

Mosques will shelter us

OPEC will finance us

Hollywood will love us.

Annan will pass politically correct sympathetic statement for Jihadists."

It is frightening to see that his predictions are becoming a reality.
In the two years since I received this letter, Europe has been subjected to attacks, riots, embassy burnings, increased crime, and parades of Muslims on the nightly news carrying signs with messages such as: "England, your 9/11 is coming," and "Islam will rule the world," and "Behead those that slander Islam."

The Council on American/Islamic Relations (CAIR) already has plans to replace our Constitution with the Quran and states it openly and clearly: The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth." CAIR Co-founder Omar Ahmad.

The rest of the article is here:

http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/stock/060604
 

Alcott

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Magnetic Poles said:
The imprisonment and taking away of the property of Japanese-Americans was a shameful chapter in our history. It should not be repeated.

Okay. If there are any Jap Muslims living here, we can exempt them.
 

NaasPreacher (C4K)

Well-Known Member
Americans must love to live in fear. We feared the Reds in the 50s, we feared a papist president in the 60s, we feared The Bomb in the 60s, now we fear the jihad and global warming.

What is this fascination with fear?
 

LadyEagle

<b>Moderator</b> <img src =/israel.gif>
Roger, I don't see any Americans living in fear. We are still going about our business, going to work, to school, to church, to the doctor, shopping, building and buying homes, starting small businesses, dining, eating fast foods, going to sporting events, flying and driving all around the country, going on vacations, running errands, attending sporting events and community events, and going about our daily lives - hardly the actions of a population living in fear. Being aware of people whose ideology is to kill us and take over our country and destroy our way of life is a far cry from living in fear.
 

pinoybaptist

Active Member
Site Supporter
C4K said:
Americans must love to live in fear. We feared the Reds in the 50s, we feared a papist president in the 60s, we feared The Bomb in the 60s, now we fear the jihad and global warming.

What is this fascination with fear?

Pardon me, but that Americans are in fear is a media-made hype, and when oft repeated, the public believes it.
 

NaasPreacher (C4K)

Well-Known Member
What, other than fear, would motivate my countrymen to throw away the precious liberties that we treasure.

Maybe the terrorists are already in the road to victory. If they can get the American state to take away liberties that we will be no better than the Muslim states and their people will no longer have any reason to flee.
 

2 Timothy2:1-4

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I would like to live in a world where I wouldn't have to lock my door at night. Or worry about my children when they go out to play that some sick pedophile may come along. But failure to ignore those needs will and has with others proved to be irresponsible and tragic for many. People have died from inaction. And the threat that it will happen again is very real.

It is equally irresponsible to know of a terrorist threat and ignore it only to say that if it happens we can then investigate it and prosecute the criminals. It is irresposnsible not to defend against the threat of lost and innocent as well as unsuspecting American lives. Our defenses must be up. We must take defensive measures to protect ourselves against the threat. Because it has happened, people have lost their lives, here on our soil. Now people can call that living in fear if they want. I call it responsible assesment and defense. This pie in the sky ideology that says do nothing and investigate it if it happens is foolish, irresponsible, and without sound reason.

Where did anyone get their information that the terrorists want us to defend against them? I would like a source. What they want is for us not to defend against them so they can take out the Empire State building, the Sears tower, or any airport. And to do it over and over until our economy goes down the tubes. They cannot win over us in a military conflict. But they will try any backdoor attack they can think of.

We have a President, God Bless him, who doesn't know what to do about all this. But neither does anyone else. It is new to everybody. Israel has dealt with this for years and have not come to any real solution to stop it and remain as open as they are. Do we really want to look like Isreal? Do we want bombs going off daily in many cities? Do nothing and that will happen. Do away with homeland security and that will happen. Stop allowing the government to track funds and phone calles of terrorists and that wil happen.

Hitler became as powerful as he did because no one listend or looked for the warning signs. Everyone just ignored him as no big deal. Kind of like what is happening with terrorism.

I do not leave my doors unlocked at home. If I did I would be foolish. I do not let my kids play unsupervised thinking that "if" something happened well then we could investigate it and bring the people to justice. Maybe this hasn't gotten personal enough for some of you. How sad. Or maybe there is some hypocracy since there seems to be some anger over the loss of the lives of the troops and some want to stop more loss of them, but seem to be out of concern to stop the loss of lives as a result of terrorists here.

I would believe that "liberty" was the real motivation behind some of those who want to do nothing if they offered some alternative action. But to want to do nothing in the name of "liberty" is supicious and not convincing. I do not pretend to know what drives such an attitude. But the results are clear. It is irresposnible and without sound reson.
 

Rufus_1611

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Roger has it right. This is no longer the land of the free and the home of the brave. It is the land of the skittish and terrified. They have a boogey-man that is so horrific, so terrible that they are willing to throw out the Constitution and the protections that went with it in order to be "secure". These are the last dying gasps of a Republic, which is ending not with a bang but with a whimper of a plea from its citizenry for gov't to save us and protect us from all those scary bad guys by destroying the thing that made us free.

"But when ye shall hear of wars and commotions, be not terrified: for these things must first come to pass; but the end is not by and by." - Luke 21:9​
 

Rufus_1611

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2 Timothy2:1-4 said:
I would like to live in a world where I wouldn't have to lock my door at night. Or worry about my children when they go out to play that some sick pedophile may come along. But failure to ignore those needs will and has with others proved to be irresponsible and tragic for many. People have died from inaction. And the threat that it will happen again is very real.

It is equally irresponsible to know of a terrorist threat and ignore it only to say that if it happens we can then investigate it and prosecute the criminals. It is irresposnsible not to defend against the threat of lost and innocent as well as unsuspecting American lives. Our defenses must be up. We must take defensive measures to protect ourselves against the threat. Because it has happened, people have lost their lives, here on our soil. Now people can call that living in fear if they want. I call it responsible assesment and defense. This pie in the sky ideology that says do nothing and investigate it if it happens is foolish, irresponsible, and without sound reason.
If our leadership was interested in our defenses it would seem like they might defend the border no?

Where did anyone get their information that the terrorists want us to defend against them? I would like a source. What they want is for us not to defend against them so they can take out the Empire State building, the Sears tower, or any airport. And to do it over and over until our economy goes down the tubes. They cannot win over us in a military conflict. But they will try any backdoor attack they can think of.
A good way to defend the backdoor would be to protect the border.

We have a President, God Bless him, who doesn't know what to do about all this. But neither does anyone else. It is new to everybody. Israel has dealt with this for years and have not come to any real solution to stop it and remain as open as they are. Do we really want to look like Isreal? Do we want bombs going off daily in many cities? Do nothing and that will happen. Do away with homeland security and that will happen. Stop allowing the government to track funds and phone calles of terrorists and that wil happen.
We have a president that does nothing to defend our borders, but actually encourages greater incursions through his rewarding of lawbreakers. Why doesn't he defend the borders if he's our great defender/decider?

Hitler became as powerful as he did because no one listend or looked for the warning signs. Everyone just ignored him as no big deal. Kind of like what is happening with terrorism.
Another reason Hitler became powerful is because of the pride of the German citizenry and their belief that fascism couldn't happen to them.

I do not leave my doors unlocked at home. If I did I would be foolish. I do not let my kids play unsupervised thinking that "if" something happened well then we could investigate it and bring the people to justice. Maybe this hasn't gotten personal enough for some of you. How sad. Or maybe there is some hypocracy since there seems to be some anger over the loss of the lives of the troops and some want to stop more loss of them, but seem to be out of concern to stop the loss of lives as a result of terrorists here.
If your home can be equated to a nation and you locking your doors is a method of protecting the borders of your home from invasion, why doesn't the United States of America lock her doors?

I would believe that "liberty" was the real motivation behind some of those who want to do nothing if they offered some alternative action. But to want to do nothing in the name of "liberty" is supicious and not convincing. I do not pretend to know what drives such an attitude. But the results are clear. It is irresposnible and without sound reson.
I believe the sound, responsible thing to do would be to protect our borders and stop offending the borders of other nations. Additionally, I believe that all citizens of the United States of America should be afforded the protections guaranteed in the United States Constitution and this idea that we should round up United States Citizens of a certain skin color or world view and intern them, is one of the most abhorrent things I've ever read on this board.
 

2 Timothy2:1-4

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I am very aware of the failings of the President especially when it comes to the border. That is part of the problem I am talking about. It most certainly doesn't make the case of the "Do nothings".
 
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