King James Bible vs New age versions

[Precepts]

Jack Hyles , Bob Gray , Curtis Hutson ,
Harold Sightler , Oliver B. Greene and my Pastor
teaches me the same thing I believe

Bro. Tim, I'm with you for the most part, but I really can't believe you mentioned Bro. Sightller and Bro. Oliver B. Greene in the same breath as Hyles and Hutson. Did you really know these men? maybe you've just been taught by their tapes and books, that is good! But they did slice with the Sword with a little Balm of Gilead applied.

Oh,in case you're wondering, I am labeled by these, uh, dooodes as KJVO and it really doesn't bother me they do, but when they attribute things said by other , either misinformed, or malicious souls, I get a wee-bit riled. Hmph! I must have a little more, uh, power or something, I haven't been nearly as rash but I have some of these same dooodes shunning me and even calling others, even my own "kind" to join in their shunning too!

BTW, I know BYTSOAD, (Ed), the Lord used each of these men greatlty, but I "prefer" to lean with Dr. Sightler, Dr. Greene, and Dr. Gray. I am sure your pastor is a great man of God, himself, who is he? I haven't seen if you have mentioned his name, I just may know him? Have you learned to use the PM feature yet? Feel free to send me a PM if you'd like.

In Christ,

Bro. Ricky

 

[Precepts]

I'm really going to be shunned now, I agree with Riplinger on this very point. I made the same point earlier in another thread w/o knowing what Cloud had to say. Maybe Bro. Cloud needs a little more insight in just how subtle ol' slewfoot really is. Secular humanism, new age mentality, greenpeace, and all the liek are satan's tinker toys.

 

[CubeX]

LOL! I love when people say this stuff b/c they are absolutely wrong! In all honesty, we should all learn Greek, Hebrew and a little bit of Aramaic and read the oldest versions available! That's THE MOST ACCURATE word of truth from God!

Sry, to sound rude, arrogant, etc. because I know I am, but just think about it! The KJV was written when King James was in rule in England and commisioned for the Bible to be translated for all the common people. (Take to mind, this is recalling about 2 days worth of information from Church History class.)

I'm sry, but if you can read the King James Version better, READ IT! It the NIV is easier, READ IT! But, it has been proven that the NASB is the MOST accurate. I don't really prefer it though b/c it can be a bit confusing at some places. But as for understanding, I think that it was either the Message or the New Living Translation that was the easiest for most people to understand.

Whatever floats your boat really, unless you are thinking about those new version like the "feminist" bibles or the "humanist-style" bibles that take away things like God's gender or instead of "right hand of God..." it's "the holy hand of God..." so they didn't offend left-handed people!

Sry, had to let that all come out. I've been needing to for a while. I've already studied this for a long enough of a time so that I do understand all of it. Thought I'd share. And again, sry for the attitude that the first paragraph seems to have. It's hard to get the right feelings in text!

-CubeX

 

[DON ELLIS]

"I have no doubt that there is a demonic involvement in the modern versions. I believe one can trace a clear line of demonic deception stretching from Tischendorf to Metzger. I do not see the modern versions DIRECTLY PROMOTING the New Age. Rather I believe the facts testify that the multiplicity of modern versions is AIDING the New Age by subtly weakening the authority the Word of God once held in the churches and in society."


And also, someone mentioned "Satan being subtle"
isnt that is what Mr. David Cloud is talking about here? Sublty? How would Satan do it exactly...how would he take over the world? Like he's really going to jump out at the people who are trying to get to Heaven on "good behavior" with horns and a pitchfork, ha ha....NO! Rather he's going to do it slowly , bit by bit, show up in different versions of the...BIBLE we have NIV NKJV, etc, etc. And bit by bit Satan is taking a part out here and there, adding in new words, to comfort the sinner who does not want to obey, who doesnt want to reform his life, to make him/her feel comfortable with the way they live, instead of telling them like it is, Like Jesus did. Not that people are not Trusting Christ as their savior, but satan uses these versions to keep them at bay, holding them back, from doing more, from totaly depending on God, only!! from totaly obeying His Word. because, as long as they can feel comfortable living like hell, then Satan still has a chance at their future generations, because they arent being taught the infalable Word of God, the way it was meant to be taught, because so much has been changed. Remember!!! God NEVER CHANGES, He's always the same, so Why should the Word of God, change to suit the minds of todays people??? IT SHOULDNT!!
New age Bibles??? when I hear that, all I can think of is the world is coming to an end soon, and Jesus will soon be here, and I think of "One world government, then I think of The antichrist. (and you can correct me on my grammer of the antichrist, if you want to , but the antichrist doesnt deserve to be capitalized if you ask me)

I grew up never knowing there was more than one Bible..that is the KJV, I am scared of the other ones..because..I read the part at the end...in Revelations 22:18..."For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If ANY MAN shall add unto these things, God shall ADD UNTO HIM THE PLAGUES THAT ARE WRITTEN IN THIS BOOK:"

maybe the people who continue to leave verses out, and add new words or what they call, "updated" words, that "todays people can understand" maybe, they just didnt read all the way to the end, or I don't think they would have messed with Gods word to begin with. I mean..do you think GOD was kidding? and if you are brave enough to toy with God,and His ALMIGHTY Word, then you to me are crazy, and have ROCKS FOR BRAINS!!!,

It goes on to mention, in Rev. 22:19 " And if any man shall TAKE AWAY FROM THE BOOK of this prophecy, God shall TAKE AWAY HIS PART OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFE AND OUT OF THE HOLY CITY and from the things which are written in this book."
vs. 20 "He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. "

Did yall forget that? Does this not mean anything to you? I want to be sure that I don't miss out on the promises God made to me, therefore, I choose not to be partaker of any other version than the one that was given to me, and my father and my fathers father and my fathers fathers father....get the picture?
To do other wise would be like having NO BRAIN at all. Don's wife, Cindy

 

[Precepts]

But, it has been proven that the NASB is the MOST accurate. I don't really prefer it though b/c it can be a bit confusing at some places. But as for understanding, I think that it was either the Message or the New Living Translation that was the easiest for most people to understand.

Confusing?

Yeah, Right! and you said it is the most accurate, who told you that garbage? You don't even like it yourself and admit it's confusing to you and then say you understand other, uh, totally off the wall, versions better?

You must be an undercover KJVO just acting like you are advocating mv's.

Hey! Scott Emerson Clark! Better come rescue this one, he ain't gonna last long!

"it can be a bit confusing"

 

[Precepts]

Good one! brother Don's wife,Cindy! You are right to not captiaslize "anti-christ" and your grammar is good, spelling could use help, but so does mine.

I hope not to be misunderstood what I was saying about Bro. Cloud, I was only saying Sister Riplinger has a bit more insight than many other preachers.
So "preach-it!" Sister. (quotation marks are intentional, I know God DOESN'T CALL WOMEN PREACHERS! But bels the Lord, O my soul, some of them can PREACH!)

 

[Charles Meadows]

Cindy,

What Revelation 22:19 originally said was this:

22:19 και εαν τις αφελη απο των λογων του βιβλιου της προφητειας ταυτης αφελει ο θεος το μερος αυτου απο του ξυλου της ζωης και εκ της πολεως της αγιας των γεγραμμενων εν τω βιβλιω τουτω

I think the KJB renders it accurately - but it is itself a translation. You cannot accuse someone of violating Rev 22:19 by translating it as long as they do so accurately and with respect to sound doctrine.

 

[DON ELLIS]

I can't read that, of course. So I'll say this, if the KJB translation came from the text that you just gave me, that I cannot understand, then fine, it means the same thing. Otherwise, someone screwed up the whole Word of God so then what do we believe? I choose to believe, whats written in plain english in my KJB. I'm not here to contradict version or greek text, or where this came from and that...I don't understand it, that's why God put in a language that I can understand, which is the KJB 1611, that I read daily. Cindy

 

[DON ELLIS]

PS, just to make things clear, I was not accussing anyone of doing anything...with that verse I am using it in reference to ..adding to and taking away from the Bible.

Thanks for the thumbs up Quickeningspirit. I gotchya on the Gail Riplinger. everyone has a way of overdoing or underdoing things.

Cindy, Bro. Don's wife

 

[Charles Meadows]

Cindy,

Good! So do I. I read the KJB pretty much exclusively by the way. My point would be that reading a "modern version" does not mean someone is "taking from the book".

CM

 

[Precepts]

O.K., Charles Tuna , Give us YOUR translation of Rev. 22:19 and let's see if it "lines" up.

 

[Bro. Tim L. Bynum]

QuickSpirit...Sliced the sword ? I don`t know
what you mean . Hyles , Gray , Sightler,...I`ve
seen them all preach in person .

 

[Ed Edwards]

Originally posted by QuickeningSpirit:
O.K., Charles Tuna , Give us YOUR translation of Rev. 22:19 and let's see if it "lines" up.

If anyone will
take the silent "e"s out of the KJV1611
and make a KJV1769, "then God shal take away
his part out of the booke of life, and out
of the holy citie, and from the things
which are written in this booke.

 

[Charles Meadows]

Well QS here goes...

And if anyone would take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the book of life, and out of the holy city, and the things having been written in this book.

Not near as nice as the KJB - but hey I never claimed to be inspired!

The MV versions don't have the umph either - but I think they can still "carry" God's word to the believer.

Oops, am I becoming a closet KJBO??

 

[tinytim]

Originally posted by Bro. Tim L. Bynum:
I have NEVER heard a peep out of these other
KJBO`s you mentioned...Did Ed and Tiny Tim chew
them up and spit them out, or were they kicked
off like Robycop tried to get me kicked off ?

Nope, I'm not hungry yet. I'm still here, can't believe you are though. I've just been listening to a lot of *lack of knowledge*.

I too am really praying for you to gain some Godly insight into what you are doing.

So far from what I've read from you today, I've learned that you're a charismatic. And that the Holy Spirit lies to you. (KJB Vs Geneva)

You also asked what I thought of the "Dr Spook Generation" I thought it was Dr Spock. And I disagree with him. I too believe in spanking. Just not beating. That's against the law.
My dad didn't believe in time outs either.
Anyway the only "Spook" generation I know of is the generation of KJVO that was *born* within the last 50 years.

Before you type something, please know the facts.

QS, thank you for praying for me last night. I needed it.

 

[rsr]

Somebody said:

I was only saying Sister Riplinger has a bit more insight than many other preachers.

Stop it. I'm going to bust a gut. You are too funny.

 

[tinytim]

Maybe in Home economics

 

[tinytim]

It's funny that the ones that don't believe in women preachers put Gail above preachers.
hypocrisy.

 

[DON ELLIS]

Ok, heres some facts..see if you can pass the test.

THE NIV CHALLENGE


Try Answering These From Your NIV

By Rex L. Cobb

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INSTRUCTIONS:

Using the New International Version Bible, answer the following questions.

Do not rely on your memory. As the Bible is the final authority, you must take the answer from the Bible verse (not from footnotes but from the text).


Fill in the missing words in Matthew 5:44. "Love your enemies,__________ them that curse you, ______________ to them that hate you, and pray for them that __________ and persecute you."


According to Matthew 17:21, what two things are required to cast out this type of demon?


According to Matthew 18:11, why did Jesus come to earth?


According to Matthew 27:2, what was Pilate's first name?


In Matthew 27:35, when the wicked soldiers parted His garments, they were fulfilling the words of the prophet. Copy what the prophet said in Matthew 27:35 from the NIV.


In Mark 3:15, Jesus gave the apostles power to cast out demons and to: ____________


According to Mark 7:16, what does a man need to be able to hear?


According to Luke 7:28, what was John? (teacher, prophet, carpenter, etc.). What is his title or last name?


In Luke 9:55, what did the disciples not know?


In Luke 9:56, what did the Son of man not come to do? According to this verse, what did He come to do?


In Luke 22:14, how many apostles were with Jesus?


According to Luke 23:38, in what three languages was the superscription written?


In Luke 24:42, what did they give Jesus to eat with His fish?


John 3:13 is a very important verse, proving the deity of Christ. According to this verse (as Jesus spoke), where is the Son of man?


What happened each year as told in John 5:4?


In John 7:50, what time of day did Nicodemus come to Jesus?


In Acts 8:37, what is the one requirement for baptism?


What did Saul ask Jesus in Acts 9:6?


Write the name of the man mentioned in Acts 15:34.


Study Acts 24:6-8. What would the Jew have done with Paul? What was the chief captain's name? What did the chief captain command?


Copy Romans 16:24 word for word from the NIV.


First Timothy 3:16 is perhaps the greatest verse in the New Testament concerning the deity of Christ. In this verse, who was manifested in the flesh?


In the second part of First Peter 4:14, how do [they] speak of Christ? And, what do we Christians do?


Who are the three Persons of the Trinity in First John 5:7?


Revelation 1:11 is another very important verse that proves the deity of Christ. In the first part of this verse Jesus said, "I am the A______________ and O___________, the _________ and the _______:"

 

[Bro. Tim L. Bynum]

THAT`S ANOTHER ONE OF YOUR LIES TINY, REPENT!