King James Bible vs New age versions

[tinytim]

QS, I agree with you. We can either use our sword like a surgeon's scapel, or we can use it like a switchblade.
There is a lot of responsibility that goes along with the calling.
And i too often have to double check my motives.
And all to often, I have to repent.

I can appreciate what you say, and your stance on the KJV. I was there two years ago.
I still am KJV preferred. I love it. I just feel now that it is not a sin to use a NIV, when I have to. My youth group loves the NLT our church bought them. They are reading it and using it. Even at school. For some of them, that's a big step. I'm proud of them. Not me, them.
I have seen a lot of spiritual growth in the last month in a few.
One question they are tackling right now (that I might post somewhere else) is
How do you define eternity without using any concept of time.
This is important when discussing the free will/predestination issue. (where were going next)
Anyway,
I have to say, I think I misunderstood your humour at first, and was easily offended. I'm over it now.

Forgive me for prejudging.

 

[Fraser]

Mr Tim L Bynum,
I use to be a K.J.V.O.
I also use to judge people like you do!
I prefer the K.J.V over other translations.
I still use other translations.N.I.V, N.L.T, etc.
After studying months, on other bibles.I find they have helped! Q: Can you use other bibles to lead the lost to Christ, for ex: John 3:16?
Salvation is the most important decision based in our New testament! Do you agree? if yes, then these other bibles has stated this.Dont you think if these bibles are of the devil, the last thing he would put in these bibles is Salvation through Christ!Definitely NOT! Think about it!!
Fraser!

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

I went to bed last night and it looks like you people have been "biting and devouring" one another all night!

"Take heed that ye be not consumed one of another" folks. I hope we have no visitors popping in on our board. It would give tham great recourse to have a laugh at our expense.

This is a terribly sad fight -

It's hard to believe that such hatred exists in the body of Christ -

 

[Precepts]

Just so nobody thinks I'm slipping, I feel it is, not a sorry teacher, but maybe a lazy one, that resorts to a mv to reach their students, Why?

Well, I learned to do word studies, and you know what? I found that by just defining one word from the KJB, that a man could preach a good 30-40 minutes by just defining that one word!

Hmmm? In this Burger King religious crowd today that has to have it fastfood and no time to stop and talk to the waiter, uh, no wonder the Lord wants us to get back to the old ways. Old ways of eating green beans w/fat back, cornbread, real mashed taters, pinto beans, and a good ol' piece or two of mama's fried chicken. Um! I'm getting hungry! (an hungered) I think I'll go read my AV 1611 KJB!

Now I don't go for swallowing live , or dead, goldfish, but the Word of God is ALIVE! and I think I'll just go swallow me some live, uh, bait!

Reminds me of the place we stopped to get a biscuit in the mornings on the way to the job, they had a sign that read:
LIVE BAIT.
BREAKFAST.

 

[Fraser]

King James 1611,
Translation by Anglicans commissioned by a bisexual King who persecuted the prilgrim Fathers.Who used the Geneva Bible, not the KingJames.They even translated in a way to support English ecclesiasms. eg:Bishop-episcopas=overseer. They were heavily influenced by the "Latin Vulgate" eg: the real K.J.V.1611 contained the Apocrypha,and the Vulgate is responsible for translations.Like " firmament". In Gen 1 "giants" for nephilm in Gen 6." Lucifer" instead of "morning star" in Is14:12.
Also, The translaters of the K.J.V. ALL beleived in sprinkling.Not Baptism by submersion, in which our bibles teach us! Checkout the history! K.J.V.O

 

[Precepts]

Bro. Roger, I'm trying to get some of these dooodes to lightenup a little bit. Thanks for the concern, I know you're genuine!

Where'd ya get the smiley's, uh, frownies? I've been trying to download Incredimail, but everytime I do it hangs up and have to finish it later. But then it still won't finish.

 

[Precepts]

Originally posted by Fraser:
King James 1611,
Translation by Anglicans commissioned by a bisexual King who persecuted the prilgrim Fathers.Who used the Geneva Bible, not the KingJames.They even translated in a way to support English ecclesiasms. eg:Bishop-episcopas=overseer. They were heavily influenced by the "Latin Vulgate" eg: the real K.J.V.1611 contained the Apocrypha,and the Vulgate is responsible for translations.Like " firmament". In Gen 1 "giants" for nephilm in Gen 6." Lucifer" instead of "morning star" in Is14:12.

I can tell your motive is to bring knowledge ot a new level of understanding and thereby bring about healing to the Body of Christ. Uh, confusion is more like it.

Any of you mv advocates going to jump on Fraser for attacking God's Word? Why not? Yall use the same tactics everytime some body says something about your precious little commentaries.

 

[Fraser]

I am not putting down Gods Word!
If you would of read my other post.I am proving a point. Dont bash other bibles.Now you know how we feel!Its all of Gods Word! it has come through humans hands. Thank God!it has perserved itself through various bibles.Maybe altered a bit, but the meaning is still there!

 

[Precepts]

Sorry, Fraser, but you did put down the Word of God, you did it again when you attributed the hands of men in altering the Bible, then further by making such an outlandish statement that all versions are God's Word. Sacrilege! Blasphemy!

What's that street language version called? What about the ebonics version?

What's wrong? You don't think God is God enough to preserve His Word? That He can't keep man's little grubby hands of it? Well, here's news for you, (and a multitude of others), He did just that in our AV 1611 KJB!

 

[Precepts]

BTW, what's a nephilim? Is that some sort of slimy organism we find in a creek or something?

Gen 6, nephilim? Hah! Try the godly line of Seth on for a change, to the TRUTH, and avoid the catholocism.

 

[Fraser]

You K.J.V.O really are brain washed!
You have not answered my question. Can you get Saved by other Bibles? yes or no?
History, is not WRONG, how can it be against God!
stating facts, on the K.J.V. and there you go again judging! I shouldnt be surprised! I use to be just like you! except it took me 21 years to here the painful truth! Study history your self!
In Christ, Fraser.

 

[Alcott]

Originally posted by QuickeningSpirit:
What's wrong? You don't think God is God enough to preserve His Word? That He can't keep man's little grubby hands of it?

I don't think He expects anybody to read it without touching it. And bud, YOU are the one with a tremendous fear that God cannot preserve His Word. Why do you have such a fear of many translations?

Well, here's news for you, (and a multitude of others), He did just that in our AV 1611 KJB

He did what? He kept "man's grubby little hands" off it? Nope, they touched it. [slur snipped] Your Anglican Bible just don't hunt fer itself. And your cowardice to answer a previous question doesn't make your case either; nor does it make the cast for that even stupider poster.

[ February 10, 2004, 12:17 PM: Message edited by: Dr. Bob Griffin ]

 

[Fraser]

Its amazing to me, that you wont answer the question at hand. Can you be saved with other bibles? A simple yes, or no? John 3:16.
your good at judging me!!
Salvation brings us to Christ!
you cant go to Heaven with out it!

Revised Standard: John 3:16
For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son,that WHOEVER BELEIVES in Him should not perish but have eternal life.


Living New Testament: John 3:16
For God loved the world so much that He gave His only Son so that ANYONE WHO BELEIVES in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.

And I could go on with other bibles.
Again I ask you! If Satan,is in control of these bibles, he would not have these verses, based on Salvation. The Devil didnt want Christ to die on the cross, he wants hell for us. Then these verses wouldnt mention Salvation! Use some common sense please.

 

[Bro. Tim L. Bynum]

Hey...answer me this...what is the greek word
for OMIT...is it in the T.R. ?
I didn`t think so...where did Wsetcott and Hort,
Zondervon and all those other catholic text
huggers get the authority to OMIT 1 John 5:7&13
and Acts 8:37 ???
If I don`t get a intelligent answer from this,
I`m going to keep posting this reply .
Aint you proud of me...I didn`t call anybody
a (snipped) .

 

[Ed Edwards]

Originally posted by Alcott:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by QuickeningSpirit:
What's wrong? You don't think God is God enough to preserve His Word? That He can't keep man's little grubby hands of it?

I don't think He expects anybody to read it without touching it. And bud, YOU are the one with a tremendous fear that God cannot preserve His Word. Why do you have such a fear of many translations? </font>[/QUOTE]Amen, Brother Alcott -- Preach it!

New word: POLYTRANSPHOBIA - the unwarrented
fear of many Bible tranlsations

 

[Ed Edwards]

Originally posted by QuickeningSpirit:
Sorry, Fraser, but you did put down the Word of God, you did it again when you attributed the hands of men in altering the Bible, then further by making such an outlandish statement that all versions are God's Word. Sacrilege! Blasphemy!

Nay! Blasphemy is LIMITING GOD
to one and only one 400-year-old Bible
preserved for a 2000-year-old Church.

Here is how to get saved in the READER'S
DIGEST BIBLE (page 670, 2ed full paragraph):

"If you confess with your lips that Jesus
is Lord and believe in your heart
that God raised him from
the dead, you will be saved.

I confess again that Jesus is my Lord
and so He is also my Savior. I first
confessed Jesus is my Lord in April 1952.
I believed then and now as well that
God raised Jesus from the dead. I was
saved in April 1952 and i'm saved in
February 2004.

 

[Bro. Tim L. Bynum]

QuickeningSpirit...I Love You...Thank You for
not being an " Alsoran ".
Are you also given an ultimatum about being
banned if you take a biblical stand against this
heresy of the New Age Versions ?
I guess Jesus would be banned because of the
phrase " Generation of Vipers "

 

[Bro. Tim L. Bynum]

[attack snipped]

[ February 10, 2004, 11:41 AM: Message edited by: Dr. Bob Griffin ]

 

[Ed Edwards]

Originally posted by DON ELLIS:
God is not talking about silent e's He is talking about actual words that mean something. MR. Ed.

We were trying to make it
simple enough for your wife to explain it to
you. Still having problems with the
KJV1611 adding to the Greek and Hebrew source
So if they are not there in the modern versions,
they appear to have been removed
from the KJV. In fact, most of the modern
versions were NOT translated from the
KJV, but from the Greek and Hebrew sources.
Did you know the Greek and Hebrew sources
have variants also? Did you read how over
2,000 variants in the Hebrew source called
the Textus Receptus (Received Text) are
docmented in the KJV1611 sidenotes.
(You do remember that the original KJV1611
has sidenotes instead of footnotes.)
Or did you ever bother to look at a KJV1611
instead of the modern version you
normaly use: KJV1769?

BTW, before you talk to a horse,
make sure you are talking to the right end.
Thank you.

 

[Ed Edwards]

Originally posted by Bro. Tim L. Bynum:
There goes Ed again . Blah blah waw waw waw.
Sounds like Charlie Brown`s teacher .

We are glad you appreciate Ed's
presentation of the plan of salvation.
I have been presenting the plan of salvation
since 1958 when you were still not in
control of your bowels. Needless to say,
we have been rejected before and will
doubtless be rejected again.
But it is sad, you reject Jesus, not me.
For i don't matter, but Jesus is the
door to eternal life.