KJV hate

[Baptist4life]

I do not know of anyone here who even mildly dislikes the KJV.

You can't be serious. You need only peruse some of the threads I posted. The "KJV A Model T Translation" for example.

We don't drive Model Ts every day, so there's no reason to use only a "Model T" Bible version!

More nonsense. The KJV is wrong

The KJV is NOT a new translation of the Bible, but a REVISION! In any case it is WRONG here as it is elsewhere.

Just a FEW examples.....

And you say you know of no one who "even mildly dislikes" the KJV? Sure, those posts were glowing praise for the KJV!

 

[rlvaughn]

I do not know of anyone here who even mildly dislikes the KJV.

I do not know of anyone here who will admit to disliking the KJV.

I think the "feelings" come in (on both sides)...

Yes, of course they do, as well as the opinions we bring to the table when we are reading what someone else wrote about some Bible translation. Therefore, two of us can read the same post and receive a different "vibe" from it.

 

[Reynolds]

Many have agreed with me. I don’t need to post again. The most hateful of those to the KJVO group in all reality just hate the KJV cause they can’t understand it. So the attack it under the false pretense of kjvo.

You realize some of the men who prefer versions other than KJV are capable of reading Aramaic, Hebrew, and Greek. Mid 1700s English is no problem for them.

 

[Reynolds]

What’s wrong with someone believing that the KJV is the best translation? Many believe the ESV is the best translation. I have no problem with that. That’s their opinion. Their wrong……

I don't have a problem with you believing that.

 

[George Antonios]

You have 100% totally missed it. There is no KJV hate. It is the idolitry of KJVonlyism that is opposed.

You have 100% totally missed it. There is no anti-KJV hate. It is the idolatry of Scholarship-Onlyism that is opposed.

 

[MB]

You haven't read some articles by "Pastor" Stephen Anderson in which he DOES claim to worship the KJV.

Well if he does isn't that between him and his God?. I'm not saying the KJV is error free but at the same time the newer versions cannot make that claim either. IMHO the critical text and all versions that come from it are full of errors. Even the JW's get there new world translation from it. Before you say the the latter day saints use the KJV I admit they do but they don't observe what is in it. Modern versions to me are confusion because of the contradictions between them and the KJV.Changing the name of Jesus to the number "one" Is just plain wrong.
For those who claim they can't understand the KJV because of the use of old English. Your ability to read is up to you isn't it ? Most of the real experts agree the KJV is the most accurate.
You stated;
"Nothing, long as such believers don't claim it's the ONLY valid English Bible translation, or that someone using other translations is using the wrong versions or corrupt versions."

Isn't this what you are claiming when you say what is wrong with the KJV as if you are some Bible expert. What ever is error is only your opinion and that does not make it fact. When the truth is we are all dependent on copies of the original. So there is nothing to prove you are right or wrong.
MB

 

[Logos1560]

It is the idolatry of Scholarship-Onlyism that is opposed.

Are you opposing the idolatry of the KJV-only advocating of the scholarship of only an exclusive group of Church of England scholars in 1611?

 

[JonC]

You can't be serious. You need only peruse some of the threads I posted. The "KJV A Model T Translation" for example.







Just a FEW examples.....

And you say you know of no one who "even mildly dislikes" the KJV? Sure, those posts were glowing praise for the KJV!

Just because one believes the KJV contains poor translation choices does not mean that person hates or dislikes the version.

Personally, to dislike the KJV, the ESV, the NIV, ect is to diskike God's Word and by extension God Himself. To dislike using a particular translation is another issue.

I have no issue saying the KJV is not the best English translation. It is a very poor translation for this generation. It has mistakes and was written under questionable guidance. But I certainly do not dislike the translation.

I wonder how many KJV preference people hate the NIV.

 

[MB]

You have 100% totally missed it. There is no anti-KJV hate. It is the idolatry of Scholarship-Onlyism that is opposed.

I consider the KJV as the most accurate and reliable. Do you consider this thinking worship?
MB

 

[Logos1560]

There are some threads that are very disrespectful to the KJV, IMHO....

Do you consider that those threads may be simply applying the same measures/standards to the KJV that KJV-only advocates apply to other English Bible translations?

Do you object to KJV-only advocating being disrespectful of other English Bible translations?

 

[Logos1560]

Most of the real experts agree the KJV is the most accurate.

Can you name and identify some of those claimed "real experts" that assert that the KJV is the most accurate?

 

[JonC]

I do not know of anyone here who will admit to disliking the KJV. Yes, of course they do, as well as the opinions we bring to the table when we are reading what someone else wrote about some Bible translation. Therefore, two of us can read the same post and receive a different "vibe" from it.

True about the vibe thing...but vibes are subjective anyway.

I wonder how many KJV-prefered on the BB hate the NIV, ESV, HCSB, ect.

 

[Baptist4life]

My final thought on the whole topic is this. If you cannot see that the people on here try to attack KJVOism by demeaning the KJV (which is terribly wrong), then you're truly blind, or in complete denial. It amazes me that some claim they don't see it. The KJV is criticized almost daily in countless threads. I'm not a translation or language expert, I'm just an average, born again child of God, but I can recognize bashing when I see it. It's blatantly obvious to me, and that's the main reason I pretty much stay away from the KJVO topic. Anyway, those are my feelings. I'll say no more on this thread.

 

[MB]

Can you name and identify some of those claimed "real experts" that assert that the KJV is the most accurate?

If you are wondering if I consider you an expert you'd be wrong. I consider your judgement of me in a previous post very degrading and do not wish to discuss anything with you.
MB

 

[Southern Fried Baptist]

You realize some of the men who prefer versions other than KJV are capable of reading Aramaic, Hebrew, and Greek. Mid 1700s English is no problem for them.

Doesn’t mean their right. Here we go with the “your too dumb to be right” argument.

I don’t give two shakes about doctorates and degrees. Heathens have those as well.

 

[rlvaughn]

I wonder how many KJV preference people hate the NIV.

If they are "preference" rather than "only" perhaps there should not be that many. Yet surely there are some. One regular commenter here who supports MVs has been very vocal in his opposition to the NIV2011.

 

[rlvaughn]

True about the vibe thing...but vibes are subjective anyway.

Of course they are. I did not suggest otherwise. Does not change the fact that various factors causes different people to react differently to the same comments that someone makes (but does help explain it).

 

[Yeshua1]

Why are y’all that don’t like old Kjv so mad at those that prefer it? Actually attack those that use it like their stupid for doing so.

Not towards those who prefer using it, but to those holding to KJVO!

 

[Yeshua1]

You have 100% totally missed it. There is no KJV hate. It is the idolitry of KJVonlyism that is opposed. Ask yourself what is wrong with onlyism. That is telling lies about other versions, pretending the KJV is the only legitimate Bible, despite the fact that the KJV was made from earlier multiple legitimate Bibles. The list goes on and on.

Yes, as we all respect the Kjv, just not buying into the KJVO cornbread!

 

[Southern Fried Baptist]

Why is Stephen Anderson brought up? He is not the face of fundamental baptist doctrine. He’s wrong in so many things. Although I agree with him on many things.

I do not believe in double inspiration. I do believe God has made sure we have a trustworthy English Bible. And that is the KJV.

I do not believe you are unsaved if you were led to salvation through another translation. And not many do. That is just something anti KJV folks say to be dishonest.

It all comes down to hatred towards the IFB. Which AGAIN is not Steven Anderson and the like. People use him and others to steer people clear of any IFB church because most are not Calvinist and preach salvation apart from works. Which today, thanks to the invasion of Calvinism into seminaries as a response to the seeker sensitive movement, is considered heretical.

It’s not about the KJV. It’s about hatred towards non Calvinists and good gospel preaching. Paul Washer, John Macarther, RC Sproul…..all I consider brothers, even though we have some differences, would say I’m hell bound. That is what all this comes down too and I’m sick of it to be honest.