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KJV Onlyest 1611 Psalm 12:7 note, question.

37818

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Psalm 12:6-7, The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve *them from this generation for ever.

1611*note: them Heb. him, i.e. every one of them

Question, how does the Hebrew "him" refer to God's word in verse 6?

Wanted, KJVONLYISM explanation.
 

Alan Dale Gross

Active Member
I don't count, as being a KJB Apologist and not one DNA cell of me is KJVO, but I like to post, so here's my take on it.
Question, how does the Hebrew "him" refer to God's word in verse 6?
Bold Red would be The Bible and Bold Purple is for the "him"s the Psalmist has been talking about.

The first word "them" in verse 7, would refer to God's Word.

The second word "them' in verse 7, would refer to "them", meaning 'the poor', 'the needy',
and the 'him's the Lord Will Set 'in safety'.


5 "For the oppression of the poor, for the sighing of the needy, now will I arise, saith the LORD;
I will set him in safety from him that puffeth at him."

6 "The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times".

7 "Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve "them" from this generation forever."

= "them", meaning 'the poor', 'the needy', and the 'him's the Lord Will Keep 'in safety'

also:

7 "Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve "him" from this generation forever."

= "him", meaning 'the poor', 'the needy', and the 'him's the Lord Will Keep 'in safety'

So, the second "them" in verse 7, is already approprite to be referring to "them" men,
with "them", meaning 'the poor', 'the needy', and the 'him's the Lord Will Keep 'in safety'
which could generically be spoken as "him" = "them".
...

Otherwise, in verse 7, you would have a redundancy with "keep them|" and "preserve them".

7 "Thou shalt keep/preserve them, O LORD, thou shalt keep/preserve "them" from this generation forever."

When, that wording would have been done like this, instead.

7 "Thou shalt keep and preserve them, O LORD, from this generation forever."
...

If we say that the Lord will "preserve him" from this generation forever,"
the Lord is going to Accomplish that by using:
6; "The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times"

and 7 "Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, which means God's Word will be right there along with "them"/ "him",
in order for the Lord to also 7; "preserve them", 5; "'the poor', 'the needy', and the 'him's the Lord Will Keep 'in safety'
 

JD731

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Psalm 12:6-7, The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve *them from this generation for ever.

1611*note: them Heb. him, i.e. every one of them

Question, how does the Hebrew "him" refer to God's word in verse 6?

Wanted, KJVONLYISM explanation.

The Psalm should be considered in this break down.

1 ¶ «To the chief Musician upon Sheminith, A Psalm of David.» Help, LORD; for the godly man ceaseth; for the faithful fail from among the children of men.
2 They speak vanity every one with his neighbour: with flattering lips and with a double heart do they speak.


3 The LORD shall cut off all flattering lips, and the tongue that speaketh proud things:
4 Who have said, With our tongue will we prevail; our lips are our own: who is lord over us?


5 For the oppression of the poor, for the sighing of the needy, now will I arise, saith the LORD; I will set him in safety from him that puffeth at him.


6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

8 The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted.

The first him in V 5 and the third him is the poor and needy, converted Jews, a collective among the Jews. The second him is also a collective who is led by an individual whose character appears and is described several times in the Psalms and Prophets as a loud mouthed and proud blasphemer and who leads a coalition of nations during the last 42 months of the tribulation in an attempt to destroy the people of Israel. However he gains his position initially with flatteries.

The key verse in this psalm for understanding it is Verse 5. Ignore it and there is no hope in understanding it.

This Psalm, as all Psalms are prophesies and David was called a prophet by the KJV Bible.

The KJV only believers are generally wrong about this Psalm as far as I can tell. However, they are not corrected with those who use the new easy readers.
 
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