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KJV Onlyest 1611 Psalm 12:7 note, question.

JD731

Well-Known Member
What you do use as your greater authority for claiming that certain editions of the KJV have errors? When you seem to dismiss the greater authority of the preserved Scriptures in the original languages, what sound basis do you have for claiming that the names of God are not properly translated in some KJV editions? Do you blindly or completely trust Strong's Concordance numbers to determine which Hebrew word underlies a KJV rendering?
I do not dismiss the importance of the words of the original languages but I understand that ones cannot learn the great mysteries of the faith and the deep things of God with these words exclusively. You have even unwittingly demonstrated your inability in your comments. Many of those you quote likewise demonstrate this truth by some of the things they say. They miss more truth than they see often times.

If you speak English and believe and study the KJV as if it is the word of God there will be certain truths that will illuminate your mind and you might even pick up on them without thinking the Holy Ghost who lives in the believer is the actual teacher of these truths and causes one to see them. I remember when in my reading Genesis, the first time I saw Jesus Christ in the OT in arguably the most important chapter in the OT and it shed new light on the statement in John 1:1 where John wrote, "in the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God."

Gen 15:1 ¶ After these things the word of the LORD came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward.
2 ¶ And Abram said, Lord GOD, what wilt thou give me, seeing I go childless, and the steward of my house is this Eliezer of Damascus?
3 And Abram said, Behold, to me thou hast given no seed: and, lo, one born in my house is mine heir.
4 And, behold, the word of the LORD came unto him, saying, This shall not be thine heir; but he that shall come forth out of thine own bowels shall be thine heir.

Gen 15 is a turning point in human history and a definite transition in Jehovah's interaction with mankind. It is the place where he made his son known and introduced his son with a particular name and a title. This is in the very beginning of the third (3rd) millennium. Until this time the name of God has been the LORD (Jehovah) God (Elohim). Now he is revealed in a vision as the Lord GOD (Adonai Jehovah). The emphasis is on Lord from this point. His title is the word of the LORD and he fills the scene in both testaments. He is in the NT scriptures with this title 13 times. The prophets of the OT speaks the words of God that he speaks to them. (the word of the LORD came unto me saying, etc. etc. The word of the LORD is a person and it can be easily proven to someone who believes the words. Jesus is the "servant" GOD, hence the Adonai before Jehovah, I believe.

This is the first time either the name or the title is in the scriptures. It is doctrinally significant It is the time that Abraham believed God and was justified according to Romans 4.

He appears and speaks to the prophet Ezekiel a total of 210 times in his prophesy as the Lord GOD (Adonai Jehovah) and in 60 verses he is called the word of the LORD.

Example;
Eze 1:3 The word of the LORD came expressly unto Ezekiel the priest, the son of Buzi, in the land of the Chaldeans by the river Chebar; and the hand of the LORD was there upon him.
Eze 3:16 And it came to pass at the end of seven days, that the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Eze 6:1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Eze 6:3 And say, Ye mountains of Israel, hear the word of the Lord GOD; Thus saith the Lord GOD to the mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valleys; Behold, I, even I, will bring a sword upon you, and I will destroy your high places.
Eze 7:1 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Eze 11:14 Again the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Eze 12:1 The word of the LORD also came unto me, saying,
Eze 12:8 And in the morning came the word of the LORD unto me, saying,
Eze 12:17 Moreover the word of the LORD came to me, saying,
Eze 12:21 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Eze 12:26 Again the word of the LORD came to me, saying,

Example:
Eze 2:4 For they are impudent children and stiffhearted. I do send thee unto them; and thou shalt say unto them, Thus saith the Lord <0136> GOD <03069>.
Eze 3:11 And go, get thee to them of the captivity, unto the children of thy people, and speak unto them, and tell them, Thus saith the Lord <0136> GOD <03069>; whether they will hear, or whether they will forbear.
Eze 3:27 But when I speak with thee, I will open thy mouth, and thou shalt say unto them, Thus saith the Lord <0136> GOD <03069>; He that heareth, let him hear; and he that forbeareth, let him forbear: for they are a rebellious house.
Eze 4:14 Then said I, Ah Lord <0136> GOD <03069>! behold, my soul hath not been polluted: for from my youth up even till now have I not eaten of that which dieth of itself, or is torn in pieces; neither came there abominable flesh into my mouth.
Eze 5:5 Thus saith the Lord <0136> GOD <03069>; This [is] Jerusalem: I have set it in the midst of the nations and countries [that are] round about her.
Eze 5:7 Therefore thus saith the Lord <0136> GOD <03069>; Because ye multiplied more than the nations that [are] round about you, and have not walked in my statutes, neither have kept my judgments, neither have done according to the judgments of the nations that are round about you;
Eze 5:8 Therefore thus saith the Lord <0136> GOD <03069>; Behold, I, even I, am against thee, and will execute judgments in the midst of thee in the sight of the nations.
Eze 5:11 Wherefore, as I live, saith the Lord <0136> GOD <03069>; Surely, because thou hast defiled my sanctuary with all thy detestable things, and with all thine abominations, therefore will I also diminish thee; neither shall

The name "Lord God" appears in the NT 13 times. Here is an example.

Jude 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

There is lots more to know. There is safety in learning the ways of God as well as the words of God. If you do this you cannot be fooled.

It is my prayer that the Lord be pleased with my handling of his marvelous word.
 

Logos1560

Well-Known Member
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I do not dismiss the importance of the words of the original languages but I understand that ones cannot learn the great mysteries of the faith and the deep things of God with these words exclusively.
You understand and assert incorrectly as you seem to suggest that the English words of the KJV are superior to the actual original-language words of Scripture given by inspiration of God to the prophets and apostles. You do not demonstrate that the Scriptures teach your non-scriptural KJV-only opinions. You seem to suggest that the English words of the KJV teach additional revelation or great mysteries of the faith or deep things of God not taught in the Hebrew and in the Greek.
 

Eternally Grateful

Active Member
I do not dismiss the importance of the words of the original languages but I understand that ones cannot learn the great mysteries of the faith and the deep things of God with these words exclusively. You have even unwittingly demonstrated your inability in your comments. Many of those you quote likewise demonstrate this truth by some of the things they say. They miss more truth than they see often times.
but we can learn the great mysteries by reading an outdated flawed bible?

And this makes sense how?
If you speak English and believe and study the KJV as if it is the word of God there will be certain truths that will illuminate your mind and you might even pick up on them without thinking the Holy Ghost who lives in the believer is the actual teacher of these truths and causes one to see them. I remember when in my reading Genesis, the first time I saw Jesus Christ in the OT in arguably the most important chapter in the OT and it shed new light on the statement in John 1:1 where John wrote, "in the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God."
I do this every day with the NKJV, I know people who do this with the NASB. My wife does this with the ESV.


Gen 15:1 ¶ After these things the word of the LORD came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward.
2 ¶ And Abram said, Lord GOD, what wilt thou give me, seeing I go childless, and the steward of my house is this Eliezer of Damascus?
3 And Abram said, Behold, to me thou hast given no seed: and, lo, one born in my house is mine heir.
4 And, behold, the word of the LORD came unto him, saying, This shall not be thine heir; but he that shall come forth out of thine own bowels shall be thine heir.

Gen 15 is a turning point in human history and a definite transition in Jehovah's interaction with mankind. It is the place where he made his son known and introduced his son with a particular name and a title. This is in the very beginning of the third (3rd) millennium. Until this time the name of God has been the LORD (Jehovah) God (Elohim). Now he is revealed in a vision as the Lord GOD (Adonai Jehovah). The emphasis is on Lord from this point. His title is the word of the LORD and he fills the scene in both testaments. He is in the NT scriptures with this title 13 times. The prophets of the OT speaks the words of God that he speaks to them. (the word of the LORD came unto me saying, etc. etc. The word of the LORD is a person and it can be easily proven to someone who believes the words. Jesus is the "servant" GOD, hence the Adonai before Jehovah, I believe.

This is the first time either the name or the title is in the scriptures. It is doctrinally significant It is the time that Abraham believed God and was justified according to Romans 4.

He appears and speaks to the prophet Ezekiel a total of 210 times in his prophesy as the Lord GOD (Adonai Jehovah) and in 60 verses he is called the word of the LORD.

Example;
Eze 1:3 The word of the LORD came expressly unto Ezekiel the priest, the son of Buzi, in the land of the Chaldeans by the river Chebar; and the hand of the LORD was there upon him.
Eze 3:16 And it came to pass at the end of seven days, that the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Eze 6:1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Eze 6:3 And say, Ye mountains of Israel, hear the word of the Lord GOD; Thus saith the Lord GOD to the mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valleys; Behold, I, even I, will bring a sword upon you, and I will destroy your high places.
Eze 7:1 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Eze 11:14 Again the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Eze 12:1 The word of the LORD also came unto me, saying,
Eze 12:8 And in the morning came the word of the LORD unto me, saying,
Eze 12:17 Moreover the word of the LORD came to me, saying,
Eze 12:21 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Eze 12:26 Again the word of the LORD came to me, saying,

Example:
Eze 2:4 For they are impudent children and stiffhearted. I do send thee unto them; and thou shalt say unto them, Thus saith the Lord <0136> GOD <03069>.
Eze 3:11 And go, get thee to them of the captivity, unto the children of thy people, and speak unto them, and tell them, Thus saith the Lord <0136> GOD <03069>; whether they will hear, or whether they will forbear.
Eze 3:27 But when I speak with thee, I will open thy mouth, and thou shalt say unto them, Thus saith the Lord <0136> GOD <03069>; He that heareth, let him hear; and he that forbeareth, let him forbear: for they are a rebellious house.
Eze 4:14 Then said I, Ah Lord <0136> GOD <03069>! behold, my soul hath not been polluted: for from my youth up even till now have I not eaten of that which dieth of itself, or is torn in pieces; neither came there abominable flesh into my mouth.
Eze 5:5 Thus saith the Lord <0136> GOD <03069>; This [is] Jerusalem: I have set it in the midst of the nations and countries [that are] round about her.
Eze 5:7 Therefore thus saith the Lord <0136> GOD <03069>; Because ye multiplied more than the nations that [are] round about you, and have not walked in my statutes, neither have kept my judgments, neither have done according to the judgments of the nations that are round about you;
Eze 5:8 Therefore thus saith the Lord <0136> GOD <03069>; Behold, I, even I, am against thee, and will execute judgments in the midst of thee in the sight of the nations.
Eze 5:11 Wherefore, as I live, saith the Lord <0136> GOD <03069>; Surely, because thou hast defiled my sanctuary with all thy detestable things, and with all thine abominations, therefore will I also diminish thee; neither shall

The name "Lord God" appears in the NT 13 times. Here is an example.

Jude 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

There is lots more to know. There is safety in learning the ways of God as well as the words of God. If you do this you cannot be fooled.

It is my prayer that the Lord be pleased with my handling of his marvelous word.
if your using this to try to support KJV Only. It is weak
 
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