KJVO and Missions

[Rippon]

Which King James - the 1611 or the 1792

You mean the 1769 Benjamin Blayney version.

 

[Salty]

You mean the 1769 Benjamin Blayney version.

trying to think of an excuse for the mixup :tongue3: :smilewinkgrin:

 

[robycop3]

I am KJO and dont believe your not saved if you use other translations.

the KJO camp I am in believes that the King James is the only bible in english that you should use, Can God still work in other translations? yes, I read the NIV for a bit in my early stages of Christian life... But the other translations are missing verses that we believe to be inspired and have weakened support for doctrines like the Deity of Christ as well as fasting.

Using and NIV or MV is like riding a bike with a broken peddle when you have access to an Airplane.

if anything the New Translations cause doubt on the word of God when they place the last section of Mark 16 in brackets, or when they have misleading footnotes for verses that say "the oldest and best manuscripts do not have this reading", When you look at one bible and it has a verse, and the other does not, that creates doubt and confusion.

Here in America, you have the right to be wrong.

Can you show us any SCRIPTURAL SUPPORT FOR the KJVO myth? I have previously posted the man-made, cultic, dishonest origin of the current edition of KJVO, which no KJVO has denied. But no KJVO can show us ANYTHING FROM GOD justifying KJVO. Thus, why should any Baptist believe it?

 

[Rippon]

I believe in King James Only for English speaking people, I don't speak other languages but would accept the bible that is closest to an equivilent [sic]of the King James Readings.

By the term "Bible" you mean Bible translation.

Some countries do not have multiple translations to choose from.

For example, to my knowledge in Russian, there is no TR translated bible, and the only one they have is the critical text, so I would use that on the foreign field until a translation from the TR or the KJV was released.

Hmm...
So would you consider a translation based on the CT to be the Word of God? Would you consider the faith of believing reads to be somewhat defective because of their Bible version?

What about people from other countries who can read and understand English as a second or third language. Would it be a priority of yours to convince them to have a TR-based Bible translation --or even the KJV itself. If so, why?
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Returning to the subject of KJV Onlyism in countries in which English is the native language.

All TR-based translations in English are not identical, as you should know. There is variation. How much deviation from the 1769 Blayney version would you be willing to accept (or 'countenance' in KJV-speak)? Do you consider the Blayney edition the final perfected form of the KJV -- or do you think the KJV can be improved?

 

[franklinmonroe]

If your church is NOT a KJVO church, would you consider supporting financially a KJVO missionary? ...

For those that might know: In what ways has KJVOism had a negative effect on mission efforts? Can you think of any positive effects that KJVOism has had towards missions?

 

[Salty]

For those that might know: In what ways has KJVOism had a negative effect on mission efforts? Can you think of any positive effects that KJVOism has had towards missions?

If the priority of a KJO is to prove the KJV to his new flock - that I would see as a negative.

 

[Yeshua1]

I am KJO and dont believe your not saved if you use other translations.

the KJO camp I am in believes that the King James is the only bible in english that you should use, Can God still work in other translations? yes, I read the NIV for a bit in my early stages of Christian life... But the other translations are missing verses that we believe to be inspired and have weakened support for doctrines like the Deity of Christ as well as fasting.

Using and NIV or MV is like riding a bike with a broken peddle when you have access to an Airplane.

if anything the New Translations cause doubt on the word of God when they place the last section of Mark 16 in brackets, or when they have misleading footnotes for verses that say "the oldest and best manuscripts do not have this reading", When you look at one bible and it has a verse, and the other does not, that creates doubt and confusion.

You are assuming here though that the KJVO position has the correct view on just which passages should have been seen as being in the originals though, and what if that view is wrong?

And would you say that the scholars who translated versions such as the 1984 Niv and the Nasb were inferior to those who did the 1611 Kjv?

That they did not have better access to sources and tech, and in understand the culture and the original languages today?

or did the Oxford scholars have "inspiration" from God to allow them to translate into English a perect text?

 

[Yeshua1]

By the term "Bible" you mean Bible translation.

Some countries do not have multiple translations to choose from.

Hmm...
So would you consider a translation based on the CT to be the Word of God? Would you consider the faith of believing reads to be somewhat defective because of their Bible version?

What about people from other countries who can read and understand English as a second or third language. Would it be a priority of yours to convince them to have a TR-based Bible translation --or even the KJV itself. If so, why?
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Returning to the subject of KJV Onlyism in countries in which English is the native language.

All TR-based translations in English are not identical, as you should know. There is variation. How much deviation from the 1769 Blayney version would you be willing to accept (or 'countenance' in KJV-speak)? Do you consider the Blayney edition the final perfected form of the KJV -- or do you think the KJV can be improved?

That would basically mean that his take would be that the Holy Spirit can ONLY use the Kjv to speak to sinners and saints, as He is limited, and cannot work through any other version!