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Ed Edwards

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Miachelle: " ... God is not the author of confusion ... "

You are beginning to chant this like a eastern
religion mantra :(

Find out where it comes from in the Bible and what
it means. In general, your bent bowels are misapplying
it's meaning.

But I love to praise Jesus in 17th Century talk:
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Praise Iesus, the Christ
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Eutychus

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Michelle, there has been plenty of "confusion" in the Church under the KJV - just take a look at all the denominations, fringe groups, and cults that have sprung up with nothing but the good old KJV to support their views.
 
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Ed Edwards

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2 Kings 7:6 (KJV1769):
For the Lord had made the host of the Syrians to hear a noise of chariots, and a noise of horses, even the noise of a great host: and they said one to another, Lo, the king of Israel hath hired against us the kings of the Hittites, and the kings of the Egyptians, to come upon us.

Who authored the confusion in the Syrian camp?
Hint: "the Lord"

But I love to praise Jesus in 17th Century talk:
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Praise Iesus, the Christ
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michelle

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Find out where it comes from in the Bible and what
it means. In general, your bent bowels are misapplying
it's meaning.
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Confusion and strife, and division are being caused in the churches, to which God is not the author of:

1 Cor.14

33. For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.


Romans 15

1. We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves.
2. Let every one of us please his neighbour for his good to edification.
3. For even Christ pleased not himself; but, as it is written, The reproaches of them that reproached thee fell on me.
4. For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.
5. Now the God of patience and consolation grant you to be likeminded one toward another according to Christ Jesus:
6. That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.


Love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
michelle
 
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Ed Edwards

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1 Cor.14:33 (KJV1769):
For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace,
as in all churches of the saints.

1 Corinthians 14:33 (HCSB)
since God is not a God of disorder but of peace.
As in all the churches of the saints,

"Confusion", the personal attribute
is not totally like "disorder" the intra-personal
attribute. Perchance they were similar in the
17th century, but not in the 21st century
WHERE YOU LIVE.

But I love to praise Jesus in 17th Century talk:
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Praise Iesus, the Christ
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michelle

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Here is another one for you Ed and Trotter:
2 Peter 3. And if I am so mistaken in my understanding to which the Lord has given to me, please enlighten me. You can claim that all you want to, but it doesn't mean it is true. I know what these scriptures mean and in their correct context.
(John 16,17)


Love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
michelle
 
HankD

HankD

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It is evident that it wasn't a mass of chaos and division in that time about it. Today we see multiple varieties of versions, all different, and all different to the standard that has been the English Bible for hundreds of years. It is not the same thing. Today we have unqualified people telling us what the origional languages really say, and what they think they say, and what they "thought" the writer was saying. The tranlsation committees are continually changing thier minds. The whole stream of the mv's is filled with things that are not Biblical, and not in an orderly and structured fashion, but the opposite that of the KJB, not only in the texts and methods, but that which is chaos, confusion, doubt, division, strife, false labels, &lt;attack on Bibles snipped&gt; God is not the author of confusion, or lies.
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michelle, I have only and ever taken the KJVO arguments and applied them to the KJV itself, just like the "poisoned-well" theory which theory you alluded by jumping off into other issues which is your trademark. In two instances out of many it was shown that the 1611KJV deletes words, but rather than address this issue you revert to rehersing the shibboleths and platitudes of those who cloned you.

There are indeed some very serious issues about Modern Versions but this constant diatribe of both direct and oblique accusations against us indicates the true source of your motivation.

I for one would love to discuss these issues with those who refrain from or at least attempt to control their fleshy emotions.

Then dear michelle when we give you a taste of the fare from the very same diet you have dispensed to us, of the very same kind you have constantly harangued the BB with, you commence to wallow about in a pool of self pity and indicate that you may leave.

We do love you michelle but IMO your zeal for God and His Word lacks knowledge and the wisdom of how to deal with people.

HankD

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michelle

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diatribe of both direct and oblique accusations against us indicates the true source of your motivation.
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I do not understand what you are referring to when you say "poisend well". I have never even heard this spoken of until you made mention of this yesturday. Is this referring to the texts underlying the mv's? Well, if it is, it has been shown in English, how this is evident. God did not leave those who do not have foreign language capabilities without a defense against this.
(Psalm 12, 119, 1 Cor.1:18-31, 2 Cor.12:9)


Are you saying Hank, that no one here is guilty of false accusing those on the opposite of their own camp? Many are accusing me (and others) falsely, that we believe in false doctrines and man made myths, and this is not the truth. I have explained and showed to you all the scriptural reasons for my belief. Not one of you can show me where my understanding is wrong in the scriptures. It has been shown to you all, with scripture that God will preserve his words for every generation for the faithful. We are counted as the faithful Hank, here in America, who speak English. You have yet to provide me one scripture that says God said he would only honour his words in Greek and Hebrew, and that all others who speak other languages will not be provided with the scriptures 100% without knowledge of the Greek and Hebrew. Those in the mv camp are lacking in scriptural support for their view, and then tell me I believe in false doctrine, and a man made myth? My belief/faith/trust comes from what the scriptures have said concerning God's word, and from the EVIDENCE he has given. Not from what I think God will do. My only motivation here is to share the truth, regardless of how you all take it or think of it.

You say my words lack knowledge and wisdom in how to deal with others. Well, that may be true, but none of you are guiltess in this either. But you all believe you are. Right? You all are never wrong, and are never in a postion to be corrected? Nor to repent and apologize? Right Hank? Am I understanding what you are saying correctly?


Love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
michelle
 
NaasPreacher (C4K)

NaasPreacher (C4K)

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We are counted as the faithful Hank, here in America, who speak English.
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Please explain this claim further Michelle.

America, who slaughters babies wholescale and sanctions homosexual marriage is faithful?
 
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Charles Meadows

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"Not one of you can show me where my understanding is wrong in the scriptures. It has been shown to you all, with scripture that God will preserve his words for every generation."

Except that we've showed you over and over that Ps 12 refers to people and not words!
 
HankD

HankD

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My answer to your last post michelle:

KJV James 3:2
For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same [is] a perfect man, [and] able also to bridle the whole body.

Psalm 1:1-3
Blessed [is] the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
But his delight [is] in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.
And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

Galatians 5:22
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
 
HankD

HankD

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It has been shown to you all, with scripture that God will preserve his words for every generation.
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We already knew this.
The KJV translators already knew this before they began their work, before they translated Psalm 12 from the Hebrew Scriptures.

If you ask what they [the Translators] had before them," says the Preface, "truly it was the Hebrew text of the Old Testament, the Greek of the New ... If truth be to be tried by these tongues, then whence should a Translation be made but out of them? These tongues therefore, the Scriptures we say in those tongues, we set before us to translate, being the tongues wherein God was pleased to speak to his Church by his Prophets and Apostles
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Not one of you can show me where my understanding is wrong in the scriptures. It has been shown to you all, with scripture that God will preserve his words for every generation.
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The "jots and tittles" (of the Law) are preserved only in the Hebrew Scriptures.

HankD
 
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michelle

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America, who slaughters babies wholescale and sanctions homosexual marriage is faithful?
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The faithful here in America do not do these things. I am an English speaking American, and a faithful follower of Jesus Christ, as well as many other people in this generation, as well as generations past.

love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
michelle
 
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