1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

lack of Scriptural support

Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by robycop3, Jan 22, 2005.

  1. Phillip

    Phillip <b>Moderator</b>

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2001
    Messages:
    6,708
    Likes Received:
    1
    Back to KJVonlyism? I thought that was a settled issue? KJV preferred is one thing, but KJVONLY?????? No proof anywhere. . .
     
  2. Plain Old Bill

    Plain Old Bill New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2003
    Messages:
    3,657
    Likes Received:
    0
    O.K. you guys enough is enough. I have been watching movies on the AMC channel during December and January. The only movies I have watched are the ones which were in eglish and qouted the KJV of the Bible. Therefore I can say a few things about this unequivicly. First they did speak english in the O.T. & N.T. whether the language was invented yet or not. Second I saw them quote the KJV in the movies both O.T.& N.T., thewrefore the KJV is the only authorized english version of the Bible. How do ya like that for evidence.
     
  3. Slambo

    Slambo New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2003
    Messages:
    197
    Likes Received:
    0
    If it was good e'nuff for Chuck,it's good e'nuff for me!
     
  4. Ed Edwards

    Ed Edwards <img src=/Ed.gif>

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2002
    Messages:
    15,715
    Likes Received:
    0
    IF it is good enough for Chick Comics,
    then it's good enough for me :D
     
  5. David J

    David J New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2004
    Messages:
    796
    Likes Received:
    0
    Still no scripture...hummm
     
  6. Ed Edwards

    Ed Edwards <img src=/Ed.gif>

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2002
    Messages:
    15,715
    Likes Received:
    0
    I respectfully disagree.

    Pigs will fly aeons before you get a
    supporting scripture or scriptures
    from a KJVOist.
     
  7. manchester

    manchester New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2004
    Messages:
    401
    Likes Received:
    0
    I was being sarcastic, referring to non-existent posts and putting the burden on the other to find them.
     
  8. HankD

    HankD Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    May 14, 2001
    Messages:
    26,977
    Likes Received:
    2,537
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I have seen pigs fly!

    At our dinner table when we had 10 of our 11 children at home and we had pork chops that night.

    HankD
     
  9. David J

    David J New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2004
    Messages:
    796
    Likes Received:
    0
    LOL Hank!
     
  10. michelle

    michelle New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2003
    Messages:
    3,217
    Likes Received:
    0
    Hank,

    You know very well the scriptures and the evidence that has been given, along with many and lengthy reasons why we as servants of our Lord should reject and warn about the mv's. You seem to only want to argue, and make others do double work all for nothing, yet again - even though you are well aware of what has been given. I am NOT GOING THERE AGAIN. Read my response to why I responded with that first post on this thread again. You constantly try to show that we hold to double standards, when it is YOU, and many others who do, along with only desiring to argue, and not really care one iota for the truth.


    Some day you will know and hopefully it will not be too late to change on your compromise of the truth.

    love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
    michelle
     
  11. Preacher's Boy

    Preacher's Boy New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2005
    Messages:
    45
    Likes Received:
    0
    This whole issue reminds me of the ancient dispute regarding how many angels can fit on the head of a pin.

    This looks a lot likke something to do rather than go into all the world, meet sinners, and make disciples of them.

    .....thanks
     
  12. michelle

    michelle New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2003
    Messages:
    3,217
    Likes Received:
    0
    Preacher's boy,

    Although you have a very good point, the fact is, that these are discussion threads, covering a variety of issues, within the churches and our brothers and sisters in Christ. We are to help edify and love one another, and this issue is a very important one, and one that needs desperately to be discussed.


    love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
    michelle
     
  13. Ed Edwards

    Ed Edwards <img src=/Ed.gif>

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2002
    Messages:
    15,715
    Likes Received:
    0
    Preacher's Boy: "This looks a lot likke something to do rather
    than go into all the world, meet sinners, and make disciples of them"

    In fact, i've been discussing with these folks for 2½-years and
    nearly all of them actively attempt to disciple sinners. So this
    is really not a discuss Bible Versions or witness --
    but that the active witnesses are discussing Bible Versions.

    Michelle: "We are to help edify and love
    one another, and this issue is a very
    important one, and one that needs
    desperately to be discussed."

    Amen, Sister Michelle -- Preach it! [​IMG]
     
  14. robycop3

    robycop3 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2000
    Messages:
    14,396
    Likes Received:
    672
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Preacher's Boy...You'd be surprised how little time any of us spend on these boards. It doesn't take long to type a post unless we hafta do some research. And these discussions are a part of the Baptist way of worship, as we do NOT blindly accept man-made doctrines without any SCRIPTURAL SUPPORT.

    The KJVO myth has been responsible for tearing apart many churches, especially those of the Baptists, Southern Baptists, and IFB. The CARDINAL PROBLEM with this myth is that there's absolutely NO SCRIPTURAL BASIS for it. Therefore, it's false.

    Michelle...Can you please give us JUST ONE VERSE that can be applied to the KJV alone? Not one of those you've ever posted in defending KJVO has a version-specific application.
     
  15. michelle

    michelle New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2003
    Messages:
    3,217
    Likes Received:
    0
    Sure. I'll give you a few, that inform us, and reveal to us, that God has and will provide his word of truth to us faithful perfectly, and anything today that is contrary to the word of God, we will know it, and are to reject it. You can call it KJVonlyism. I call it the word of God onlyism.

    Psalms 12

    1. Help, Lord; for the godly man ceaseth; for the faithful fail from among the children of men.
    2. They speak vanity every one with his neighbour: with flattering lips and with a double heart do they speak.
    3. The Lord shall cut off all flattering lips, and the tongue that speaketh proud things:
    4. Who have said, With our tongue will we prevail; our lips are our own: who is lord over us?
    5. For the oppression of the poor, for the sighing of the needy, now will I arise, saith the Lord; I will set him in safety from him that puffeth at him.
    6. The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
    7. Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever
    .
    8. The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted.


    Deut. 8

    3. And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the Lord doth man live.

    Proverbs 30

    5. Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
    6. Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.


    Luke 4

    4. And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.

    John 5

    8. And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.
    39. Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.


    Revelation 22

    18. For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
    19. And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
    20. He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
    21. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.


    These are just but a few scriptures I could give you, that inform us of God's word, against that which has tampered with it. It is either the mv's, or it is the KJB. You cannot have it both robycop. You cannot scripturally have it both concerning the truth and concerning the truth about the very scriptures themselves.


    love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
    michelle
     
  16. natters

    natters New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2004
    Messages:
    2,496
    Likes Received:
    0
    Those passages were COMPLETELY TRUE before the KJV existed, thus they cannot be used in support of KJV-onlyism. This is not rocket science.
     
  17. michelle

    michelle New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2003
    Messages:
    3,217
    Likes Received:
    0
    --------------------------------------------------
    The KJVO myth has been responsible for tearing apart many churches, especially those of the Baptists, Southern Baptists, and IFB. The CARDINAL PROBLEM with this myth is that there's absolutely NO SCRIPTURAL BASIS for it. Therefore, it's false
    --------------------------------------------------


    Well robycop, you are free to see it this way, although you might want to make sure that you are on the right side of the division. Truth divides the lie from it. Just something to ponder.

    The Lord has said this: Can two walk together unless the be agreed? We are to have the same mind, and that is the mind of Christ, and the unity of the Spirit. This is obviously not the same mind nor spirit. YOu see it as what I and many others recognize as being something to reject scripturally, as believing in false doctrine, when you embrace those things that have disobeyed and been revealed that they are in error, and to which cannot be supported with any scriptural truth. None. And in fact is contrary to, and opposite of the scriptural truth.


    love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
    michelle
     
  18. michelle

    michelle New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2003
    Messages:
    3,217
    Likes Received:
    0
    --------------------------------------------------
    Those passages were COMPLETELY TRUE before the KJV existed, thus they cannot be used in support of KJV-onlyism. This is not rocket science.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    Oh they always have been the truth, and ALWAYS WILL be the truth. So, the question I ask you: How come you have not applied then these truths to this issue?


    love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
    michelle
     
  19. NaasPreacher (C4K)

    NaasPreacher (C4K) Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2003
    Messages:
    26,806
    Likes Received:
    80
    I choose to apply thses verse to the NKJV - case settled and my point is proven.
     
  20. natters

    natters New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2004
    Messages:
    2,496
    Likes Received:
    0
    Exactly. They were/are true in Wycliffe's translation, so why was Tyndale's produced? Even so, they were/are still true in Tyndale's translation, so why was the Geneva produced? Even so, they were/are still true in the Geneva translation, so why was the Bishops' produced? Even so, they were/are still true in the Bishops' translation, so why was the KJV produced? Even so, they were/are still true in the KJV, so why was Well's translation produced? Even so, they were/are still true in Well's translation, so why was Purver's translation produced? Even so, they were/are still true in Purver's translation, so why was Webster's produced? Even so, they were/are still true in Webster's translation, so why was Young's produced? Even so, they were/are still true in Young's translation, so why was the Revised Version produced? Even so, they were/are still true in the RV, so why was the ASV produced? Even so they were/are still true in the ASV, etc., etc., etc.

    I have. Repeatedly. Emphatically. Just not to a single, exclusive translation, for not even scripture itself does so nor exhorts me to. To do so is to go beyond what scripture says.
     
Loading...