Are you dense? Post #34.
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Landmarkism: What is it?
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Are you dense? Post #34.
37818
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So Jesus' first disciples were not baptized with Christian baptism?
I must be. You only provide a Bible verse and a link to a different topic. Neither address the questions.
Do you have documented proof of ancestry to the apostles?
Are primitive baptists (that means you) landmarkists?
These are simple answers. Why are you being evasive?
Yes, you must be, I answered those questions in the link provided. All you need do is think about it.
Are you searching for somethiong to ACCUSE me of?
I am waiting for you to speak directly to my questions and answer them. You did not answer them. You gave a verse and a link, but no answer.
If you're looking for an accusation it is simply that you refuse to answer and have been dodging the questions since they were asked. You are thus forcing me to make assumptions until you directly answer.
My assumption is this:
1) You have no documentation to any lineage of faith.
2) You, and primitive baptists, fully embrace landmarkism and thus don't have any interest in evangelism.
canadyjd
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Scripture does not specifically say they were baptized in water, as far as I know.
It is clear they were baptized by God Holy Spirit in Acts 2.
peace to you
...,you mean your accusation is this - true to your colors.
You haven't been around here long enough to know me.
37818
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The implications from Jesus acquiring His disciples is they were baptized by John the Baptist.
No accusation. That's you being prejudiced and judgemental.
This thread is to understand landmarkism. From what I can tell, primitive baptists hold to landmarkism. Thus, a primitive baptist should be able to trace their lineage.
My wife can trace her family lineage to the early anabaptists as a successive line and trace the route of her ancestors who have kept the faith. It seems to me that such a lineage should be physically traced. Any believer can claim they are connected to the Apostles or early believers who directly walked with Jesus, but there is no sect/denomination that can actually trace their traditions back to the first church. Anyone who would make that claim is being disingenuous.
How does your argument with @canadyjd fit with Landmarkism? I must say I don't see the connection.
37818
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I disagree with Landmarkism. I hold the Baptist successionism of the faith and practice are solely found by way of our New Testament. Upon which genuine Christianity stands or falls.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by Baptist Successionism. Are you saying that only people who are fully immersed in water are saved and all others who profess Christ as Lord are not?
Was the thief on the cross saved?
37818
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???Really???
Only immersion is immersion. Only believers' immersion is believers' immersion. Believers' immersion is a work. Believers' immersion accompanies the gospel but is distinct from the gospel. All the Holy Scriptures are true without contradiction.
Can you actually answer the question instead of going "Really?"
It seems you are trying to say that immersion in water isn't needed for salvation.
What, according to you, is "the Baptist Succession of Faith."
37818
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One is not saved by works.
Believers' immersion is a work. One is not saved by works.
The 27 books being the New Testament.
Do you reject the other 39 inspired books?
Moreso, every Christian denomination and sect that I know of holds to the same books you hold. Therefore, you can easily be a Lutheran and enjoy the 27 books of the NT. You still don't define "Baptist Succession of Faith."
37818
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No.
Ok. Can you prove Christianity, Jesus' life, death and resurrection without any references direct or indirectly in any way to the New Testament.
What is Baptist Succession of Faith? I have never heard the term and since you used it, I figured you had a definition. Apparently you don't.
Jesus and all that he accomplished is oozing through the Old Testament. If I had the desire and hours of time to write, I believe I could show you Jesus life, death, and resurrection in the Old Testament prophets. I know that Jesus did it for the disciples on the road to Emmaus.
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