Laws of Interpretation

Good points, but we must add the How of it to our "W's". You have given good information on the way we find the dispensations of God. When we can correctly do this, we know How God operated in His dispensations of the past, of the present, and in the future. God never changes, but He does change His mind, and sticks to His plan that requires flexibility. Our God is not a static God, unable to think, implement or react. There are just too many instances that He gives us a glace at His character.

God is a God of division, as we can quickly see with His very first Words in Genesis 1:1, and we are to correctly divide His Word. If we are unable to notice this, Christ tells us from heaven about it. He commissioned Paul as His heavenly Apostle, and gave to Paul a dispensational gospel. We are then to believe Christ Jesus from heaven, and pay attention to what this Apostle tells us as we live in this saving Grace dispensation of God. This dispensation started on Damascus Road. Ephesians, chapter three testimony should be sufficient, and if not there are others.

Some fear Paul for his boldness in Christ, but we don’t fear John. John is the only earthly Apostle to put forth the gospel of Paul, but we like to relate to John because Jesus was on the earth with John. But John was allowed to write his books after understanding the gospel that Christ had given to Paul, for Paul had talked to John, and John had read all of Paul’s Epistles. Christ would not permit John to write his gospel, Epistles, or Revelation, until after the Temple was destroyed. James and Peter were allowed to write to the Jew as the Temple stood, and will be of great help to the Jew in the coming Great Tribulation. Christian faith, ituttut Galatians 1:11-12

 

Itutut,

"James and Peter were allowed to write to the Jew as the Temple stood, and will be of great help to the Jew in the coming Great Tribulation."

For starters, just where do you get this kind of statement of declaration what is nowhere to be found in scripture?

If the church has been "raptured" out, just does the witnessing?

 

The 144,000 will bring back the "great commission" message of salvation. There were two gospels, and two churches. One was in Jerusalem, and the other was headquartered in Antioch. Peter started out as the head of the church in Jerusalem (which ceased to exist), and the Christian church was first named in Antioch as this is where the “grace commission” began. This information is in my Bible, and yours. Do you have scripture to disprove the two gospels; one emanating from the Holy City of Israel, and one from the heathen city of Antioch?

Can you point out in scripture that James or Peter speaks of the “rapture”, without reference to Paul? They speak of the “kingdom to come” after the “kingdom of Christ” is first come. Paul is the first to give us this information, for Christ did not reveal this to anyone, before He revealed it to Paul. This information is my Bible, and yours. Do you have scripture to disprove we heathen now have our own heavenly appointed Apostle, and this Apostle has the authority while the Temple still stood, to go to both Gentile and Jew.

The kingdom message for the Jew to inherit the earth has been put on hold with its gospel. It cannot come until we that today house the Holy Spirit down here, are caught up into the air. Then anti-christ will become known, and the Lord’s Prayer will take on real meaning for the “kingdom of heaven to come to this earth”, and praying for “bread” they will not be able to buy, or sell, and to deliver them from the evil in that day.” God will hear His people cry. Until then He is today reconciling all the world unto himself of those who believe His Word and accepts His Grace by believing salvation comes through faith in our Lord Jesus Christ. Christian faith, ituttut

 

quote..."The 144,000 will bring back the "great commission" message of salvation."

WWhhhhhhhaaaaaaatttt?????

quote..."There were two gospels, and two churches." Do you have scripture to prove the two gospels????

Again - wwhhhhaaattt?

quote..."Can you point out in scripture that James or Peter speaks of the “rapture”, without reference to Paul? "


Can you point out in scripture where James or Peter speaks of the "rapture" at all?

quote..."Do you have scripture to disprove we heathen now have our own heavenly appointed Apostle, and this Apostle has the authority while the Temple still stood, to go to both Gentile and Jew."

Look I don't know what religion you come from, but this stuff is just downright bizarree! First, I am not a "heathen", I am a Christian! Secondly, I don't have my own heavenly appointed Apostle - except Christ!

 

Oh, I forgot this..."...and the Christian church was first named in Antioch as this is where the “grace commission” began."

Uh, no..."the Christian church was not first named in Antioch."..."And the disciples were first called Christian in Antioch. "Acts 11

The "grace commission" began in the Garden of Eden.

 

I am not of a religion, but of faith through Christ, belonging to a Baptist church, that is religious. But haven’t you noticed Christ picked Paul to talk to you today, while He is in heaven waiting to grab you up from this earth to heaven someday. If you don’t believe Christ Jesus while He is in heaven, just who is it that you believed?

If you are alive and breathing you are a Christian heathen dog saved by the Grace of God. Do you believe Jesus while He was man? You must not because He says you are heathen dog. ” And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil. 23. But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us. 24. But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 25. Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me. 26. But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs. 27. And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table. 28. Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.”

As long as you believe the “tradition of man”, you will keep denying His Word. ituttut

 

The "Gospel" is Called:
Gospel of the Kingdom
Mat_4:23; Mat_24:14

Gospel of God
Rom_1:1; Rom_15:16; 1Th_2:8; 1Ti_1:11; 1Pe_4:17

Gospel of Jesus Christ
Mar_1:1

Gospel of Christ
Rom_1:16; 1Co_9:12; 1Co_9:18; Gal_1:7; Phi_1:27; 1Th_3:2

The Dispensation of the Grace of God
Eph_3:2

The Grace of God
Act_20:24

Gospel of Salvation
Eph_1:13

Gospel of Peace
Eph_6:15

The Kingdom of God
Luk_16:16

Glorious Gospel of Christ
2Co_4:4

Preaching of Jesus Christ
Rom_16:25

Mystery of Christ
Eph_3:4

Mystery of the Gospel
Eph_6:19

Word of God
1Th_2:13

Word of Christ
Col_3:16

Word of Salvation
Act_13:26

Word of Reconciliation
2Co_5:19

Word of Truth
Eph_1:13; 2Co_6:7

Word of Faith
Rom_10:8

Word of Life
Phi_2:16

Ministration of the Spirit
2Co_3:8

Doctrine According to Godliness
1Ti_6:3

Form of Sound Words
2Ti_1:13

Likened to:
A mustard seed
Mat_13:31-32; Mar_4:30-33; Luk_13:18-19

Good seed
Mat_13:24-30; Mat_13:36-43

Leaven
Mat_13:33

A pearl of great price
Mat_13:45-46; Luk_13:20-21

A treasure hidden in a field
Mat_13:44

A householder
Matt 20:1-16

A feast
Luk_14:16-24

Unclassified scriptures relating to:
Psa_46:4-5; Psa_89:15; Mat_4:23; Mat_11:4-6; Luk_7:22; Mat_13:17; Mat_24:14; Mat_28:18-20; Mar_1:14-15; Mar_13:10; Mar_16:15; Luk_1:67-79; Luk_2:10-14; Luk_2:34; Luk_4:18-19; Luk_10:23-24; Luk_16:16; Luk_17:20-21; Joh_1:16-17; Joh_4:14; Joh_8:32; Joh_12:35; Joh_12:50; Joh_17:7-8; Joh_13:20; Joh_18:36; Act_2:11; Act_5:20; Act_10:36; Act_13:32-33; Act_14:3; Act_16:17; Act_20:24; Act_20:32; Rom_1:16-17; Rom_10:15-18; Rom_15:29; Rom_16:25-26; 1Co_1:18; 1Co_1:21; 1Co_1:24-25; 1Co_2:4-7; 1Co_2:9; 1Co_4:20; 1Co_9:16-18; 1Co_15:1-2; 2Co_3:6-11; 2Co_3:18; 2Co_4:3-4; 2Co_4:6; 2Co_9:15; 2Co_10:4-5; Gal_2:2; Gal_3:8; Eph_1:13-14; Eph_3:8-11; Eph_6:15; Eph_6:17; Eph_6:19-20; Col_1:5-6; Col_1:23; Col_1:26-29; 1Th_1:5; 1Th_2:13; 2Th_1:10; 2Th_2:10; 2Th_2:14; 1Ti_1:10-11; 1Ti_2:4; 1Ti_3:16; 1Ti_4:6; 2Ti_1:10; 2Ti_2:3; Heb_4:2; Heb_5:13; Heb_6:1; Heb_7:19; Jam_1:18; Jam_1:21; Jam_1:25; 1Pe_1:23; 1Pe_1:25; Isa_40:8; 1Pe_4:6; 1Pe_5:12; 2Pe_1:16; 2Pe_1:19; 2Pe_2:2; 2Pe_2:21; 1Jo_2:8; Jud_1:3; Rev_14:6-7

Called The New Covenant:
Jer_31:31-34; Heb_7:22; Heb_8:6-13; Heb_9:8-15; Heb_10:9; Heb_12:22-24

Prophecies relating to
General references
Psa_46:4; Isa_2:3-5; Isa_4:2-6; Isa_9:2; Isa_9:6-7; Isa_25:7; Isa_29:18; Isa_29:24; Isa_32:3; Isa_35:5; Isa_40:9; Isa_41:27; Isa_42:6-7; Isa_43:18-21; Isa_46:13; Isa_49:13; Isa_51:4-6; Isa_52:7; Isa_55:1-5; Isa 60:1-22; Isa_61:1-3; Eze_34:23-31; Eze_47:1-12; Joe_2:28-32; Mic_4:1-7; Mat_24:14 (Naves Topical Dictionary)

ONE GOSPEL!

 

"The Gospel" (continued)
Is good tidings of great joy for all people
Luk_2:10; Luk_2:11; Luk_2:31; Luk_2:32;

Foretold
Isa_41:27; Isa_52:7; Isa_61:1-3; Mar_1:15;

Preached under the old testament
Heb_4:2;

Exhibits the grace of God
Act_14:3; Act_20:32;

The knowledge of the glory of God is by
2Co_4:4; 2Co_4:6;

Life and immortality are brought to light by Jesus through
2Ti_1:10;

Is the power of God to salvation
Rom_1:16; 1Co_1:18; 1Th_1:5;

Is glorious
2Co_4:4;

Is everlasting
1Pe_1:25; Rev_14:6;

Preached by Christ
Mat_4:23; Mar_1:14;

Ministers have a stewardship to preach
1Co_9:17;

Preached beforehand to Abraham
Gen_22:18; Gal_3:8;

PREACHED TO
The Jews first
Luk_24:47; Act_13:46;

The Gentiles
Mar_13:10; Gal_2:2; Gal_2:9;

The poor
Mat_11:5; Luk_4:18;

Every creature
Mar_16:15; Col_1:23;

Must be believed
Mar_1:15; Heb_4:2;

Brings peace
Luk_2:10; Luk_2:14; Eph_6:15;

Produces hope
Col_1:23;

Saints have fellowship in
Phi_1:5;

There is fulness of blessing in
Rom_15:29;

THOSE WHO RECEIVE, SHOULD
Adhere to the truth of
Gal_1:6; Gal_1:7; Gal_2:14; 2Ti_1:13;

Not be ashamed of
Rom_1:16; 2Ti_1:8;

Live in subjection to
2Co_9:13;

Have their conversation becoming
Phi_1:27;

Earnestly contend for the faith of
Phi_1:17; Phi_1:27; Jud_1:3;

Sacrifice friends and property for
Mat_10:37;

Sacrifice life itself for
Mar_8:35;

Profession of, attended by afflictions
2Ti_3:12;

Promises to sufferers
Mar_8:35; Mar_10:30;

Be careful not to hinder
1Co_9:12;

Is hid to them that are lost
2Co_4:3;

Testifies to the final judgment
Rom_2:16;

Let him who preached another, be accursed
Gal_1:8;

Awful consequences of not obeying
2Th_1:8; 2Th_1:9;

IS CALLED THE
Dispensation of the grace of God
Eph_3:2;

Gospel of peace
Eph_6:15;

Gospel of God
Rom_1:1; 1Th_2:8; 1Pe_4:17;

Gospel of Christ
Rom_1:9; Rom_1:16; 2Co_2:12; 1Th_3:2;

Gospel of the grace of God
Act_20:24;

Gospel of the kingdom
Mat_24:14;

Gospel of salvation
Eph_1:13;

Glorious gospel of Jesus Christ
2Co_4:4;

Preaching of Jesus Christ
Rom_16:25;

Mystery of the gospel
Eph_6:19;

Word of God
1Th_2:13;

Word of Christ
Col_3:16;

Word of grace
Act_14:3; Act_20:32;

Word of salvation
Act_13:26;

Word of reconciliation
2Co_5:19;

Word of truth
Eph_1:13; Jam_1:18;

Word of faith
Rom_10:8;

Word of life
Phi_2:16;

Ministration of the Spirit
2Co_3:8;

Doctrine according to godliness
1Ti_6:3;

Form of sound words
2Ti_1:13;

Rejection of, by many, foretold
Isa_53:1; Rom_10:15; Rom_10:16;

Rejection of, by the Jews, a means of blessing to the Gentiles
Rom_11:28; (Torrey's)


ONE GOSPEL !!!!

Now, I would strongly advise you to put away whatever kind of books that you read, get your Bible out, look up all those verses. By then you just might have a better grasp of just what the "ONE" gospel of Christ was really all about.

 

Oh, I forgot this..."...and the Christian church was first named in Antioch as this is where the “grace commission” began."

Uh, no..."the Christian church was not first named in Antioch."..."And the disciples were first called Christian in Antioch. "Acts 11

Can’t argue with that, but in the context of my post the point was made that no self respecting “kingdom member” of the Pentecostal church would be caught dead in a church that the Christian belonged to, so as you know most people unknowingly call the denominational church’s, Christian churches. So no church was ever called a Christian church until the first Christian in Antioch stepped inside. This was impossible in Jerusalem, as Christians were not allowed into the “kingdom church”.


The "grace commission" began in the Garden of Eden. [/QUOTE]

It did as long as works went along with it. This dispensation is the only dispensation of the Grace of God, through faith of Christ Jesus. He did the work, and because of His work we live.

Adam and Eve tried to do a work, but it was unacceptable to God, so God for those two people did a work. But those people were dieing. He sacrificed the first animal to properly cover Adam and Eve. He rejected their works, and said this is what I require. All people that believed God did what He told them. They offered a “blood offering”; witness Cain and Abel.

Why did millions of people perish at the flood, and only 8 souls survived? Because of one man, and because He believed God, his family was saved also. What was the first thing Noah did as soon as possible when departing the Ark. He made “blood sacrifice” to God. Evidently Noah was the only one that believe God and did the required work to go along with the Grace of God.

No, the pure Grace of God did not start at the beginning, for if so, for what purpose did Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior die? His pure Grace only came after Christ Jesus shed His blood for us, and therefore we accept His sacrifice for us, and that is the reason we in this dispensation are the only ones that are not required to offer “blood sacrifices” for we are In The Body Of Christ, The Living Sacrifice. Christian faith, ituttut.

 

How about you read each one of those verses’s to see if you can correctly divide His Word. If there is only One gospel, then why did you list so many? Which one do you believe?

Why did James and the other’s say they of the circumcision would quit having some of their “kingdom people” going to the Gentile and telling them they had to be circumcised, and become as the Jew to be saved? Paul told them to keep their thoughts and their hands to themselves, and keep away from His Gentiles, for Christ told Paul the Gentile would hear out Christ from heaven, ” Saying, Go unto this people, and say, Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive: 27. For the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. 28. Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it. 29. And when he had said these words, the Jews departed, and had great reasoning among themselves”,[/b] Acts 18:26-30.

You either believe Paul today (Christ’s gospel from heaven) or you believe some other gospel. Jesus Christ is in heaven and that is where we are destined. Jesus’ on earth gospel is directed to His earthly people, and they will inherit the earth. Jesus Christ gave His earthly Apostles their own kingdom, in His kingdom, and Christ’s kingdom is in the kingdom of God. I don’t really know where you are in the mix, but I know where I am. I am in the Body of Christ.

As you claim only one gospel is to be believed and it is from the beginning, can you tell us when you and your Baptist church offered their latest” blood sacrifice”? What then work did he require you and your church to do. This my friend is what was from the beginning. You were to believe whatever God told you to do in every dispensation, including this one. Can you show where God offered a free gift to the whole world to be made righteous in His only Begotten Son, before His Son was born and crucified? How could this free gift be offered before the fact?

If you don’t believe Paul, then you also don’t believe Peter. II Peter 3:15-18, “And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 16. As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. 17. Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. 18. But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.”[/I]

How about just one time give cause that you do not believe Paul, and/or Peter. ituttut

 

The first salvation by works by man.

Genesis 3:7 "they sewed or platted fig-leaves together, and made themselves aprons, "

The first guilty conscience after hearing the voice of the Lord God;

(ver. 8) "They heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the trees of the garden, in the cool of the day; and Adam and his wife (notwithstanding their fig-leaves) hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God, among the trees of the garden."

God goes to man – not man to God.

Verse 9. "And the Lord God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Adam, where art thou?"

The first free gift of salvation by grace was given by God. Adam and Eve do not ask for forgiveness, yet, God soon reveals the promise of a Savior to them. That has been the ONLY gospel of Grace throughout all ages.

In the following, God does not covenant with Adam, but speaks to the serpent.

(Verse 15.) "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed: it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel."

After the fall, Adam and Eve became no different than you and I whereby we can only receive the salvation by grace offered to us through our faith in the promise of it, (as they really did) and by that faith they were saved.

The first sacrifice for sins was by God not man.

(verse 21) “And the Lord God made for Adam and for his wife garments of skins, and clothed them.”

Adam and Eve believed, and was saved: “for unto Adam and his wife did the Lord God make coats of skins, and clothed them:” which was a remarkable type of their being clothed with the righteousness of our Lord Jesus Christ.

By faith in that promise of God, Adam and Eve were saved as well as any other Jew or Gentile that followed.

Animal sacrifices became the “picture” of the future sacrifice by Christ. But they were to be made in “faith.” As time went on, those pictures became mere rituals for many, however, the remnant of the elect/chosen ones was always there.

By the time that Christ appeared there were “many” of the remnant faith forward believers waiting for that fulfillment that originated in the Garden of Eden by the “Lord God making coats of skins” and clothing them in the righteousness of Christ their Savior.

Old Testament Jewish and Gentile believers who put faith in the Messiah to come:

Joseph believed that the future savior was for the salvation from sins.

Mat 1:21 And she shall bear a son, and you shall call His name JESUS: for He shall save His people from their sins.

Mary looked forward to the Savior of her sins
Luke 1:47 “…and my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior.”

The Jewish shepherds looked forward to the Messiah

Luke 2:11 “For to you is born today, in the city of David, a Savior, who is Christ the Lord…. “And the shepherds returned, glorifying and praising God…” (v. 20)

Andrew and Peter had faith in a future Messiah and rejoiced at having “found” him.

John 1:41 “[Andrew] first found his own brother Simon and said to him, “We have found the Messiah (which is, being translated, the Christ).

The Samaritan woman (Gentile) had to have looked forward to a coming Messiah

John 4:25 “The woman said to Him, I know that Messiah is coming, who is called Christ. When He has come, He will tell us all things.

Other Gentile Samaritans must have believed in a forward coming Messiah

John 4:42 “And they said to the woman, Now we believe, not because of your saying, for we have heard Him ourselves and know that this is truly the Christ, the Savior of the world.

The remnant of the Jewish elect continued throughout his ministry and grew daily. The remnant expanded after the cross to the Gentiles through the apostles, the Jewish disciples and the NT writers.

God’s remnant never ceased – it grew! And it has been the same gospel of the free gift of salvation from the Garden of Eden to the Last Day when Christ returns to put his remnant into the New Heaven and earth "Garden of Eden" - the New Jerusalem.

 

covenant,

AMEN! Well say!

There is the only ONE plan of salvation from the beginning to the end of the age. Bible emphasis us, that all O.T. and N.T. saints are saved by the faith only through Jesus Christ, please read Galatians chapter 3. God only have ONE family, not divison.

There is NO division within body of Christ! Because of Calvary already reconcile both together into one at once 2000 years ago - read Ephesians chapter 2.

Also, there is the only ONE gospel, Church have been preaching for almost 2,000 years, and Church will continue preaching the same gospel till the end of the age. Nothing change on the preaching of gospel.

In Christ
Rev. 22:20 -Amen!

 

All of the people before knew little about everthing pertaining to what God knew in His purpose. Christ tells Paul He is going to tell Paul what no one from the beginning knew. Yes many believed God and looked ahead and some looked for Messiah, and some prophets knew He would be resurrected. But they had no idea of who would save them or how. None of those people were ever sealed into the Body of Christ, for it was impossible, so all things are not the same as from the beginning.

You seem to have information from somewhere, that all is known from the beginning about this secret that Christ told only to Paul. His family didn’t know of the secret, and His Apostles were very confused over the whole matter, yet you can in some way give the Wisdom of Christ to all from the beginning.

I see there are today still two gospels being preached. One gospel looked forward to being saved by one with an unknown name, whose name was not known until It Was Known. And even then and now, the percentage that believes is not overwhelming.

The gospel before salvation by Grace through faith from the beginning was by Grace, by faith, with works, and blood sacrifice. Then added were by covenant of blood the circumcision, the law and its ordinances. So I say this is the gospel that you preach, as you say it is all as from the beginning.

I Corinthians 1:18, ” For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.” This is the gospel of Christ Jesus that I preach, and today that is the only saving gospel into the Body of Christ, and we are sealed. No body on earth ever preached the “good news” of the gospel of the CROSS, without a work and sacrifice until Jesus revealed this to Paul for use in his (Paul’s) gospel. Not until this time did the Grace of God make effective the Blood of Christ Jesus to the whole world. Christian faith, ituttut

 

Deaf, please see mine above to Cov. Christian faith, ituttut Galatians 1:11-12