Let's clear up one misconception

[annsni]

I did not say it was a sin to drink. You need to read my post and not add to it.

While irritable bowel/Crone's disease is not sin someone could let it develop into stress and that would be sin.So if this causes her long term sin she needs to repent. I also have what is called dumping having to go 5 or 6 times a day and it also causes accidents as it is most always diarrhea. While I would that I did not have this it does not cause me stress because I accept it in the Lord. So again if she has stress over this then she needs to confess and forsake and accept.
1thess 5:18
In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.
Do this and stop sinning.

So my friend worrying about pooping in her pants when she's on a date is wrong? OK - I'll let her know.

 

[freeatlast]

But since Jesus was so stressed that He sweat blood, I'd say being "stressed out" might not always be a sin. When I worked for the Red Cross Disaster Team, you bet I got stressed out. But it was not a sinful stress, it was just a stress of being overwhelmed by the task before me like when I worked the Flight 800 crash. My response to the stress could have been sinful - being angry, being hostile to the workers around me - or it could have been not-sinful and just come out in me as a growl then a working towards the massive goal I had before me. Yes, I prayed - oh goodness, did I pray a lot - but it didn't stop the worry and concern I had about the men working the crash site and the stress on them and the worry for the families who were experiencing probably the most difficult time in their lives.

So I'd say being "stressed out" could be a sin but not always.

See you prove my point. The answer is prayer, not drugs.

 

[DHK]

But since Jesus was so stressed that He sweat blood, I'd say being "stressed out" might not always be a sin. When I worked for the Red Cross Disaster Team, you bet I got stressed out. But it was not a sinful stress, it was just a stress of being overwhelmed by the task before me like when I worked the Flight 800 crash. My response to the stress could have been sinful - being angry, being hostile to the workers around me - or it could have been not-sinful and just come out in me as a growl then a working towards the massive goal I had before me. Yes, I prayed - oh goodness, did I pray a lot - but it didn't stop the worry and concern I had about the men working the crash site and the stress on them and the worry for the families who were experiencing probably the most difficult time in their lives.

So I'd say being "stressed out" could be a sin but not always.

Perhaps then that still is the wrong word to use, or it conveys the wrong idea.
It is not the stress per se, that is wrong, it is how we react to it that counts. We can have either a godly reaction or a carnal reaction. We learn to cope with stress by handing it over to the Lord, or allow it to overwhelm us in the sense that it becomes such a stress that it weighs us down in a sinful manner such as worry and depression.
Rejoice in the Lord always; again I say rejoice.

 

[freeatlast]

So my friend worrying about pooping in her pants when she's on a date is wrong? OK - I'll let her know.

Ann as usual you still seem to have a problem with truth. I did not say that. Do you have no respect for the word of God?

 

[freeatlast]

Perhaps then that still is the wrong word to use, or it conveys the wrong idea.
It is not the stress per se, that is wrong, it is how we react to it that counts. We can have either a godly reaction or a carnal reaction. We learn to cope with stress by handing it over to the Lord, or allow it to overwhelm us in the sense that it becomes such a stress that it weighs us down in a sinful manner such as worry and depression.
Rejoice in the Lord always; again I say rejoice.

:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

 

[annsni]

Come on! When I say stress brought on by sin is sin I am not saying it is from outside the person but inside the person with the stress. If their own sin causes them stress then the stress is from sin.

Or maybe it is the Holy Spirit convicting them. Then you are attributing the work of the Spirit to sin.

 

[freeatlast]

Or maybe it is the Holy Spirit convicting them. Then you are attributing the work of the Spirit to sin.

:laugh:

 

[annsni]

Cancer, Arthritis and Fibromyalgia do not cause behavior problems. The heart is where sin lives and the person who sins needs to deal with the heart by confessing and forsaking, not cover it up with drugs.

That's interesting because when the cancer went to my mother's brain, she began acting differently. She even became beliggerant - which she had never been before. Was that sin now coming out - or the cancer eating her brain?

 

[agedman]

Depression never comes on anyone without an emotional cause.

Not true.

Medical experts state that certain mental health issues including clinical depression is brought on by heart problems and strokes.

Clinical depression can also be a part of a person dealing with trauma especially loss.

PTSD has clinical depression as one of the issues.

Clinical depression is not merely an "emotional issue."

 

[annsni]

See you prove my point. The answer is prayer, not drugs.

I am addressing stress - not mental illness right now.

And what did I do when I came home? Took some Motrin (a drug), had a cup of herbal tea (a drug) to calm my mind then went to bed.

 

[annsni]

Perhaps then that still is the wrong word to use, or it conveys the wrong idea.
It is not the stress per se, that is wrong, it is how we react to it that counts. We can have either a godly reaction or a carnal reaction. We learn to cope with stress by handing it over to the Lord, or allow it to overwhelm us in the sense that it becomes such a stress that it weighs us down in a sinful manner such as worry and depression.
Rejoice in the Lord always; again I say rejoice.

I agree that it's how we react that counts. We can absolutely respond in a sinful way but thank God for our body's reaction to stress!! Our body produces hormones that give us extra energy, extra strength, extra mind awareness/ability to think and a quickness that we might not have.

But I have to admit, I did growl when I saw what we faced. That's always my first response to a stressful situation. It seems to help me release the initial reaction and be able to move on. But I was absolutely stressed the whole time I worked that crash. But then again, body parts will do that to a person.

 

[DHK]

I am addressing stress - not mental illness right now.

And what did I do when I came home? Took some Motrin (a drug), had a cup of herbal tea (a drug) to calm my mind then went to bed.

That is what I would like to know from FAL, S.Fred or F.Wife.
Do any of them get headaches?
If so, what do they do about it?

 

[annsni]

Ann as usual you still seem to have a problem with truth. I did not say that. Do you have no respect for the word of God?
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Hmmm - here is what you said:

While irritable bowel/Crone's disease is not sin someone could let it develop into stress and that would be sin.So if this causes her long term sin she needs to repent. I also have what is called dumping having to go 5 or 6 times a day and it also causes accidents as it is most always diarrhea. While I would that I did not have this it does not cause me stress because I accept it in the Lord. So again if she has stress over this then she needs to confess and forsake and accept.
1thess 5:18
In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.
Do this and stop sinning.

You said if she stresses about this, she needs to confess. You only confess if it is sin. So you said that she is sinning. Your own words. Right there. Hmmm.....

 

[preacher4truth]

That is what I would like to know from FAL, S.Fred or F.Wife.
Do any of them get headaches?
If so, what do they do about it?

They quit talkinig to one another and their headaches disappear. :thumbs:

 

[freeatlast]

That is what I would like to know from FAL, S.Fred or F.Wife.
Do any of them get headaches?
If so, what do they do about it?

So you believe that headaches are caused by mental illness? No wonder yuo seem so confused about all this.

 

[freeatlast]

Hmmm - here is what you said:



You said if she stresses about this, she needs to confess. You only confess if it is sin. So you said that she is sinning. Your own words. Right there. Hmmm.....

Ann I ask you again do n you not respect the word of God as you continue to make false statements?

This is what was said;
"So if this causes her long term sin she needs to repent."
Ann you do understand that a liar is someone who miss-represents another, corect?

 

[freeatlast]

I am addressing stress - not mental illness right now.

And what did I do when I came home? Took some Motrin (a drug), had a cup of herbal tea (a drug) to calm my mind then went to bed.

But Ann you are not the standard, the word of God is and you continually miss-represent what is said, tell untruths, right here for all to read so why would we expect you not to mock the Lord in this.

 

[annsni]

But Ann you are not the standard, the word of God is and you continually miss-represent what is said, tell untruths, right here for all to read so why would we expect you not to mock the Lord in this.

False accusations are SOOOO flowing from your heart. Very sad.

 

[DHK]

So you believe that headaches are caused by mental illness? No wonder yuo seem so confused about all this.

Headaches can be caused by many things--cancer for example.

 

[freeatlast]

False accusations are SOOOO flowing from your heart. Very sad.

Yea right, you must be delusional. :laugh: