What a stupid and ignorant proposition. Other than those 6 words I just used, such a charge is not worthy of any serious response.
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Let's see some Scriptural authority for APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION
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What a stupid and ignorant proposition. Other than those 6 words I just used, such a charge is not worthy of any serious response.
1 Corinthians 13
1If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.
Off the bat this makes your position trash.
You don't believe what you say you believe.
If understanding that dump of a philosophy of yours requires God direct intervention. Why are you here whining at us about it?
If you had a lick of common sense you would be whining to God about it.
You probably beat your car when you forgot to give it gas. Slap your wife when you didn't give her groceries to fix anything.
Having senseless logic is common theme.
As stupid as God ordaining the rape of children for his "glory" and you praying for it.
Alan Gross
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I don't know hat all this love is about, other than your dependence on 'philosophy', 'common sense', and 'logic'.
If you are trying to say something, I don't know what it is.
Obviously, whatever you have going on has not brought you to exemplifying that verse other than being a darn tootin' "noisy gong or a clanging cymbal"
The flesh does that..
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Alan Gross
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Alan Gross
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Yeah, I know you don't have anything to respond.
However,
"He that has an ear,
let him hear what The Spirit
Says to the churches"
(Revelation 2:17, 29, and 3:13).
The Holy Spirit,
is
The Executive of the Godhead,
Who Has Been Sent
to Govern The Lord's churches
as
The Holy Spirit,
Helps a church
to decide important cases of
Doctrine and Practice
(Acts 15:28).
...
The Holy Spirit,
is
The Executive of the Godhead,
Who Has Been Sent
to Govern The Lord's churches
as
The Holy Spirit,
Selects men as missionaries (Acts 13).
a. The Holy Spirit,
Sends them out
(Acts 13:14).
b. The Holy Spirit,
Determines their field of labor
(Acts 16:6-10).
...
The Holy Spirit,
is
The Executive of the Godhead,
Who Has Been Sent
to Govern The Lord's churches
as
The Holy Spirit,
Rebukes, Warns
or Encourages the churches.
"He that has an ear,
let him hear what The Spirit
Says to the churches"
(Revelation 2:17, 29, and 3:13).
a. In the Scriptures
(letters to the churches),
The Holy Spirit,
is Carrying on His Ministry
of Governing the churches.
b. Each letter is Authoritative
because it is the Voice of
The Holy Spirit,
to the churches.
...
II. THE HOLY SPIRIT
EQUIPS HIS CHURCHES.
A. Churches Today
Must Function
through
Human Instrumentality.
...
1. The Holy Spirit,
calls men into this body
(l Corinthians 12:13, 18).
...
2. The Holy Spirit,
gives the needed Spiritual Gifts to them
to enable them
in the work of the Lord
(l Corinthians 12:23-24).
...
B. The Holy Spirit,
Gives the Word of God To His Churches.
1. The Christian is compared to a soldier
(Ephesians 6).
a. Defensive implements are mentioned.
b. One offensive weapon is mentioned
- the Word of God
(Ephesians 6:17 and Hebrews 4:12).
...
2. From the Word, churches draw their instruction,
creed, interpretation, practices, and all else.
...
C. The Holy Spirit,
Gives the Diversity of Necessary Gifts
(Ephesians 4:8, 11-16).
...
1. The officers mentioned are gifts from God.
...
2. See also I Corinthians 12:10, 28-30.
...
3. Without the varied gifts,
the body would fail and fall apart.
...
D. The Holy Spirit,
Aids the Churches
In Their Worship of God.
1. The Holy Spirit,
Assists in Prayers, Praise, Adoration,
and Thanksgiving
(John 4:23-24).
...
2. See Ephesians 5:18-20, 6:18;
Colossians 3:l6;
and Romans 8:26.
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[Outlines in Systematic Theology, p. 101.]
Alan Gross
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I must place your extreme compliment at the Feet of Jesus.
The following ends with the word, 'hate'.
The history of the "kind" of churches that Jesus Built is written in blood.
...
Here you will find outward manifestations of the battle
between
The Kingdom of God
and
The Kingdom of Satan.
...
THE FIRST SATANIC ERROR
INVENTED
for THE DEVELOPMENT
of SATAN'S FALSE 'CHURCH',
was by influence men
to 'come up with' their own 'idea'
of 'church' government.
WITHOUT GOD,
APART from GOD
and
in DENIAL and OPPOSITION
to THE ETERNAL WORD of GOD.
...
1. Church Government was Changed
by Satan,
to form Satan's own "church"
( while the Church Government
of The Church that Jesus Built
REMAINS THE SAME
as when Jesus Founded
His Churches,
UNTO THIS DAY
and
the Church Government
in The Churches that Jesus Built
WILL CONTINUE to,
REMAIN THE SAME
UNTIL JESUS COMES AGAIN).
...
In developing his FALSE 'church' Satan began
by corrupting the doctrinal teachings
of the Lord's churches
from within.
...
Satan has his servants in all churches.
...
The first corruption came
in Satan seeking to change
the form of church government
that Christ gave.
...
Satan's subtility is seen in this.
...
There was a plurality of elders (preachers)
in the early churches.
...
"And from Miletus he sent to Ephesus,
and called the elders of the church"
(Acts 20:17).
...
It seems that today we have a scarcity of preachers
but not then.
...
These elders were to be equal,
one was not to lord it over another.
...
"The elders which are among you I exhort,
who am also an elder.
. . .
"Feed the flock of God which is among you,
taking the oversight thereof,
not by constraint, but willingly;
...
"not for filthy lucre,
but of a ready mind;
...
"Neither as being lords
over God's heritage (clergy),
but being examples to the flock"
(I Peter 5:1-3).
...
See our Lord's instruction on equality
(Matthew 23:1-12).
...
Early in history, Satan led some away from that Truth.
...
Diotrephes is an example given in 3rd John 9.
...
We read in Revelation 2:15,
"So hast thou also them
that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans,
which thing I hate."
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Hitler was a childhood Catholic but not an adult Catholic. He abolished Christmas long before the war.
Castro kept some clergy around and even met with Popes but no one thinks that he was a Catholic but a mass murderer.
Hitler had all sorts of collaborators, even some Jews like George Soros. It doesn't make Hitler good but makes them evil or just trying to stay alive.
Alan Gross
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I think the meaning, in Revelation 2:15, "of the Nicolaitans "lies in the name.
"So hast thou also them
that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans,
which thing I hate."
...
Nicolaitans comes from two Greek words.
...
The first is nikaw which means "to conquer."
...
The second is laos which means "people."
...
So then it means
to conquer the people or laity.
...
Thus we have a ruling clergy.
...
Thus developed an episcopal church government
in place of a congregational one.
...
"What kind of government is this?
...
"Episcopacy, Episcopal."
...
These terms are derived from the Greek 'episcopos,'
meaning 'bishop.'
...
They refer accordingly
to that system of church government
in which the principal officer is the bishop."
Note 1
...
Big Preachers
- Big "Churches".
...
Thus, some bishops with big egos
began to feel more importance attached to them
then to others.
...
Their strong personalities helped them
"climb the ladder."
...
Bishops of the larger city churches
became known as Metropolitans.
...
They began to preside
over the smaller country churches.
...
The development of this kind of "church" government
was gradual.
...
The result is what we see in Roman Catholicism
in the past and today.
...
I will quote from the Lutheran historian, Mosheim,
who is known as the father of modern church history:
...
"Let none, however,
confound the bishops
of this primitive
and golden period of the church
with those of whom we read
in the following ages;
for though they were both distinguished by the same name,
yet they differed in many respects.
...
A bishop during the first and second century
was a person who had the care of one Christian assembly,
which, at that time was, generally speaking,
small enough to be contained in a private house.
...
In this assembly he acted,
not so much with the authority of a master,
as with the zeal and diligence of a faithful servant.
...
He instructed the people,
performed the several parts of divine worship,
attended the sick, and inspected the circumstances
and supplies of the poor.
...
He charged, indeed, the presbyters
with the performance of those duties and services,
which the multiplicity of his engagements
rendered it impossible for him to fulfill;
but he had
not the power to decide
or enact anything
without the consent of the presbyters
and people;
and though the episcopal office was both laborious
and singularly dangerous,
yet its revenues were extremely small,
since these newly invented FALSE 'churches' of SATAN
had no certain income,
but depended on the gifts or oblations of the multitude,
which were, no doubt, inconsiderable,
and were moreover to be divided
among the bishops, presbyters, deacons and poor.
...
The power and jurisdiction
of the bishops
were not long confined to these narrow limits,
but were soon extended by the following means.
...
The bishops, who lived in the cities,
had, either by their own ministry,
or that of their presbyters,
erected
newly invented FALSE 'churches' of SATAN
in the neighboring towns and villages.
...
These
newly invented FALSE 'churches' of SATAN
continuing under the inspection
and ministry of the bishops,
by whose labors and counsels they had been engaged
to embrace the Gospel,
grew imperceptibly into ecclesiastical provinces,
which the Greeks afterwards called dioceses.
...
But as the bishop of the city could not extend his labors
and inspection to all those
newly invented FALSE 'churches' of SATAN
in the country
and in the villages,
he appointed certain suffragans or deputies
to govern and to instruct these new societies;
and they were distinguished by the title
chorepiscopi, i.e. country bishops.
...
This order held the middle rank
between bishops and presbyters.
Alan Gross
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The picture shows an adult Adolf Hitler leaving mass, at a Catholic 'church'.
He fit in just great.
8.5.2g: “ADOLF HITLER was A PERFECT CATHOLIC”.
Castro met with Popes. Hitler believed in eugenics and thought Darwin was scientific.
Alan Gross
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What do you have good to say about Baptists, to defend them in their stand for The Cause of Christ?
I agree with Baptist theology but I don't blame Rosalyn Carter because she was at an event in California with Jim Jones of Peoples Temple. That was a betrayal by Harvey Milk. I don't think Darwin is scientific and I think evolution is 100% wrong s scientifically.
Like I said, that kind of crap is not worthy of any response. Most of what you spew is garbage, pure garbage. You must be a former Catholic, as in my experience they can be the worst.
You are so ignorant. During the occupation of France for example, Hitler visited some of the beautiful cathedrals so I would guess that he was photographed leaving one of them. As for the German Army, they also had chaplains amongst their ranks including Protestant clergy and Catholic priests. Leave your hatred and turn to the love of Christ, your life will be a much better for doing so.
Alan Gross
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Still have nothing to say?
Maybe you could sing, "Sympathy for the Devil", for us.
Is everything RC teach:
"Smile America, God Loves you,
Don't Worry, Be Happy"?
Is that what every verse in The Bible Teach?
"Smile America, God Loves you,
Don't Worry, Be Happy"?
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Do you believe in evolution?
Alan Gross
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"Smile America, God Loves you,
Don't Worry, Be Happy"?
To be an Apostle, you had to be with Jesus and witness, first hand, His Life Risen from the grave.
The Doctrine of the
Nicolaitans comes from two Greek words.
The first is nikaw which means "to conquer."
The second is laos which means "people."
So then it means
to conquer the people or laity.
Thus we have a ruling clergy.
This is something Jesus Said that He Hated.
Satan introduced this false religious teaching to produce a separate religious entity from that of Jesus.
That was the first of hundreds of Satanic perversions to The New Testament churches Jesus Built and the churches of Satan are counterfeit and have nothing to do with God, except oppose Him and His children.
'Apostolic Succession' is an imaged perversion inspired by Satan, as all his other false religious inventions are.
RC is Anti-Christ in every respect.
People who have no idea about The Bible's Teaching of the churches Jesus Loved and comply to Rome are Rome.
God Hates Rome.
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