Lets talk about EV'S!

[Baptist Believer]

there are different kinds/ sizes of chargers.

Yes, I specified the Tesla Superchargers.

But it should be your choice.

I don't know about you, but I am not required to have houseguests. If my houseguests have an electric car or plug-in hybrid, my expectation of a houseguest is that they would ask for permission to charge their vehicle. If they do not, then they won't be my houseguest ever again.

The question seems to pre-suppose that the houseguests don't realize that electricity doesn't have a cost, and that they don't know what it would typically cost to charge their vehicle.

The question is really about inconsiderate guests, not EVs.

My brother has a Tesla, and when he went to visit my mother last January, he charged his vehicle at the local Tesla Supercharger station. He drove the car from Georgia to Texas and back and made one stop each way at a Supercharger station in Alabama -- the car charged while he made a restroom break and had a bite to eat. He previously charged at home and charged at a Supercharger station in Houston before he made his return trip.

It wasn't a big deal, but the massive anxiety over EVs perpetuated by right-wing media and unfamiliarity with the technology has caused a lot of people to have BIG FEELINGS over electric vehicles.

Just a few years ago, the same kind of anxiety existed over hybrid vehicles around here. That has calmed down because of familiarity with the technology and the shift of right-wing media to create fear over full EVs.

 

[Salty]

Yes, I specified the Tesla Superchargers.

I don't know about you, but I am not required to have houseguests. If my houseguests have an electric car or plug-in hybrid, my expectation of a houseguest is that they would ask for permission to charge their vehicle. If they do not, then they won't be my houseguest ever again.

The question seems to pre-suppose that the houseguests don't realize that electricity doesn't have a cost, and that they don't know what it would typically cost to charge their vehicle.

The question is really about inconsiderate guests, not EVs.

My brother has a Tesla, and when he went to visit my mother last January, he charged his vehicle at the local Tesla Supercharger station. He drove the car from Georgia to Texas and back and made one stop each way at a Supercharger station in Alabama -- the car charged while he made a restroom break and had a bite to eat. He previously charged at home and charged at a Supercharger station in Houston before he made his return trip.

It wasn't a big deal, but the massive anxiety over EVs perpetuated by right-wing media and unfamiliarity with the technology has caused a lot of people to have BIG FEELINGS over electric vehicles.

Just a few years ago, the same kind of anxiety existed over hybrid vehicles around here. That has calmed down because of familiarity with the technology and the shift of right-wing media to create fear over full EVs.

You brought up some interesting points.

You stated "The question is really about inconsiderate guests, not EVs."
excellent point.

Even hybrids will not be able to be sold in NY after 2030 (or 35?) This is what is upsetting those on the Right - taking away our choice.
There are many things to consider -
Now the original letter was concerned about inconsiderate guests- but there are many more issues to be considered. Something of this magnitude needs more time to consider all pros and cons!

 

[Baptist Believer]

Even hybrids will not be able to be sold in NY after 2030 (or 35?)

2035 is the model year, but your allegation is not quite right.

According to the website of New York’s Department of Environmental Conservation, the state defines zero-emission vehicles as: battery-electric vehicles, plug-in hybrid-electric vehicles, or hydrogen fuel-cell-electric vehicles.

Plug-in hybrid electric vehicles can still be sold in 2035 and beyond. This type of vehicle can use battery power for the first 30-50 miles (by current technology, according to the vehicle model) without starting the gasoline engine.

This is what is upsetting those on the Right - taking away our choice... Something of this magnitude needs more time to consider all pros and cons!

NY state law is not like the law of the Medes and the Persians. It can be altered or revoked according to changing situations and needs. What this does is simply push automakers to refine their products to fulfill the government's mandate to "promote the general welfare" of society.

 

[Salty]

Plug-in hybrid electric vehicles can still be sold in 2035 and beyond. This type of vehicle can use battery power for the first 30-50 miles (by current technology, according to the vehicle model) without starting the gasoline engine..

Just 50 miles - sounds like a teaser!

NY state law is not like the law of the Medes and the Persians. It can be altered or revoked according to changing situations and needs. What this does is simply push automakers to refine their products to fulfill the government's mandate to "promote the general welfare" of society.

and this is why it is so important that we vote out the D governor this year!

 

[Baptist Believer]

Just 50 miles - sounds like a teaser!

No, not JUST 50 miles, but the first 50 miles purely on battery power. Since most people drive less than 50 miles a day, this would eliminate most use of gasoline, while allowing the driver to go hundreds of miles on gas without having to fill up frequently.

Moreover, one DOES NOT EVER HAVE TO PLUG IN this type of vehicle if you don’t want that benefit.

I suggest you look at the Toyota RAV4 Prime specs, or the Toyota Prius Prime specs to see what these kinds of vehicles are like.

…and this is why it is so important that we vote out the D governor this year!

You are entitled to vote the way you want, but this would be the strangest reason to do so. Your facts have been mistaken or distorted throughout this discussion, so if this issue is the reason to vote against the Governor, you are voting irrationally.

 

[Reynolds]

You brought up some interesting points.

You stated "The question is really about inconsiderate guests, not EVs."
excellent point.

Even hybrids will not be able to be sold in NY after 2030 (or 35?) This is what is upsetting those on the Right - taking away our choice.
There are many things to consider -
Now the original letter was concerned about inconsiderate guests- but there are many more issues to be considered. Something of this magnitude needs more time to consider all pros and cons!

Stay in NY and get used to living in totalitarianism. No hope for NY or Californication.

 

[Salty]

Stay in NY and get used to living in totalitarianism. No hope for NY or Californication.

There is a good possiblity of hope - when it happens, I might mention it!

 

[Reynolds]

There is a good possiblity of hope - when it happens, I might mention it!

Sure. If it happens, do be sure to tell.

 

[Van]

Older Chevy Volts have about a 6 gallon gas tank. However, for average daily driving the gas engine is barely used. So in one example the vehicle drove about 900 miles using one tank of gas plus daily recharges of its 35 mile range battery.

They stopped making them because not enough people bought them. And the reason? Disinformation certainly played a part.