Lewd Chapel Message at Louisiana College

[Reynolds]

You keep bringing up the Bible as if the Song of Solomon has anything to do with this man's "preaching" [he called it preaching] about his opinion of a woman's private body parts and his preaching in a Saturday Night Live/Def Comedy Jam manner.

I've told you that I've read the Song of Solomon - more than once. It has absolutely no bearing in this matter. Sex is important in a healthy Christian marital relationship. Everybody knows that. Every - body. But how this book of the Bible is related to this man's vulgar/coarse comedy routine is beyond my comprehension.

I've also read 1 Timothy - Paul's directive to the young pastor on how to BE a pastor. He tells Timothy to "treat the older women like mothers and the younger women like sisters, with absolute purity."

Paul also said in the same letter to the young pastor for him to "Let no one despise you for your youth, but set the believers an example in speech, in conduct, in love, in faith, in purity."

This Greek word for purity is found only in these two verses - Paul to Timothy. It means "chastity", "sinlessness of life", and "cleanness".

Dr. Dara was NOT "an example in speech, conduct, or purity." Dr. Dara was NOT treating these young women, with "absolute purity" like sisters.

He had no authority to "preach" his opinion as a directive about a woman shaving her private pubic area to please a man.

And Louisiana College failed in this instance to set the matter straight.

I've read literally every article I can find in this matter and read about it on another board. I've read every single comment on everything I could find and yours, Reynolds, is the only opinion that those who don't like his "sermon" are prudes and that there's nothing wrong with what he said.

There is nothing wrong with what he said. Grow up.
If mowing the lawn offended you, I bet you couldn't sit through a good Song of Soloman sermon. It's much more graphic than lawn mowing.

 

[InTheLight]

There is nothing wrong with what he said. Grow up.
If mowing the lawn offended you, I bet you couldn't sit through a good Song of Soloman sermon. It's much more graphic than lawn mowing.

The terminology used, "mow the lawn", was crude and inappropriate.
The idea of a preacher suggesting how women should conduct their personal grooming habits is inappropriate.
Furthermore, whether or not a woman should "mow the lawn" is a personal decision and not subject to input from a man that is not the woman's husband.

End of story.

 

[Reynolds]

The terminology used, "mow the lawn", was crude and inappropriate.
The idea of a preacher suggesting how women should conduct their personal grooming habits is inappropriate.
Furthermore, whether or not a woman should "mow the lawn" is a personal decision and not subject to input from a man that is not the woman's husband.

End of story.

It is Chapel. They are there to be educated. It was appropriate. The ones who got offended were probably the ones who should follow his advice.

 

[InTheLight]

It is Chapel. They are there to be educated. It was appropriate. The ones who got offended were probably the ones who should follow his advice.

So, in your opinion, all women should "mow the lawn"?

How much lawn? All of it?
How short?
What pattern, if any?

This is what I mean by inappropriate.

 

[Reynolds]

So, in your opinion, all women should "mow the lawn"?

How much lawn? All of it?
How short?
What pattern, if any?

This is what I mean by inappropriate.

Whatever length their husband wants.
This is why a young Christian man I know told his very prudish mother, "Mama, I am going to the Philistines to find my wife." He didn't literally mean non Christian. He meant far away from his legalistic, prudish, church.

 

[InTheLight]

Whatever length their husband wants.

So, in your opinion, all women should "mow the lawn"?

 

[rlvaughn]

And Louisiana College failed in this instance to set the matter straight.

IMO this is the bigger story. The content and context of the comments will not be brought to light because LC is in full cover up mode. They have a history of this and now is more of the same. No transparency will be forthcoming. The school used to upload videos of the chapel services to YouTube. They kept Dara’s sermon off of it, and apparently deleted them all at some point. The Chapel Schedule & Videos page has been removed or is "temporarily unavailable." I wondered why a "pirated" version from somebody's phone hasn't cropped up, but their chapel policy doesn't allow members of the audience to video or audio tape the message. That in itself sounds a bit sketchy to me.

 

[Reynolds]

So, in your opinion, all women should "mow the lawn"?

That would be up to their husband. I honestly don't think his comment was about genital hair. I am still fine with it if it was. I think he was talking about body hair in general. When I was in college, about half the women didn't shave anything. Not legs, not arm pits, not anything.

 

[rlvaughn]

With the lack of context, anyone can think or imagine what they wish about Pastor Dara's comments. Most people have accepted the construction of them being a sexual nature (e.g. mow the lawn being in the pubic area, not the armpits). This makes me think that the video will prove what he said is as bad or worse than the accusations -- else why would Louisiana College not just put it out there to clear up the confusion? Rather, they hid it from the get-go.