From.his Facebook page:
(Italics mine) : ie: God kills gays....which is pretty darn close to 'God Hates Fags' as espoused by the late Freaky Fred Phelps of Westboro 'Baptist'
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LGBTQ Community Gets Evangelist Franklin Graham Event Ads Pulled In The UK
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The Bible talks about a lot of things. Not all of them are the Gospel and thus the province of the evangelist. Rev Graham would do well to learn that.
Presumably then by your reaction you would insist on Rev Graham preaching as forcefully against shirts being mixed polyester and cotton as you would he preaches against the "lifting of such shirts" ie: homosexual acts: both, after all, are condemned by Leviticus and are thus surely part of 'The Gospel'. Indeed, I look forward to the good reverend's next evangelistic preaching when he vociferously prohibits a husband and wife getting it on when she is on her period, since that is prohibited by the very same chapters of Leviticus as condemn Teh Gayz (18 and 20) and is an integral part of The Gospel.
Soft pedaling the gospel saves no one. Homosexual acts are sinful and there's no way around it. Obfuscation and rationalization simply won't work. It is what it is.
I note you've failed to address the Levitical point
Bud, you need to learn your New Testament, which does not mention shirts of mixed fabrics or a woman's uncleanness during her period, but does mention and condemn having attraction to one's same sex. For the record, the NT also does not require church members to 'tithe,' observe a sabbath, or to abstain from particular foods or drinks except for blood. Anything else you don't know?
Odd then that I've never heard Graham père or fils preach against the evils of black pudding in Lancashire, for example when the former took Manchester by storm in 1961 ( https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...can-evangelist-billy-graham-preached-14322346), as an intergral part of The Gospel...
That's because you don't have a point to address. The sin of homosexual activity is condemned in the New Testament, just like it is in the old.
Alcott is right. You need to brush up on your bible reading skills.
Then I look forward to the next sermon against black pudding....
Another really dumb comment. It's getting to be a habit. But I suspect you know you're in another argument you can't win.
Judging by your insults, sounds like that statement is far more applicable to you.
I'm afraid I can't go along with this at all. If you want to open a thread on figurative language and cleanliness laws in Leviticus, feel free to start a thread.
We cannot back off on God's moral laws. Homosexuality is forbidden in several places in both Old and New Testaments. The fact that there is tremendous push-back from the homosexual lobby is neither here nor there. The is a very apposite quotation often wrongly assigned to Luther, but no less true for that:
"If I profess with the loudest voice and clearest exposition every portion of the word of God except precisely that little point that the world and the devil are at that moment attacking, I am not confessing Christ, however boldly I may be professing Him. Where the battle rages, there the loyalty of the soldier is proved, and to be steady on all the battlefield beside is mere flight and disgrace if he flinches at that point."
Having said that, we should note that the Lord Jesus was called the Friend of sinners. He di not go off on a rant against tax-collectors, but rather called Matthew and Zacchaeus gently to Himself. Read Rosaria Butterfield's memoir, Confessions of an Unlikely Convert. Abuse and condemnation only hardened her in her sin. It was someone who took time to befriend her and show the Lord Jesus to her who won her for Christ.
In debate with the LBGTQWERTY lobby, let Graham and others be polite but firm. When he comes to Blackpool, let him show the people Jesus Christ and Him crucified.
I'm not here on this thread to argue whether the Bible does or does not condemn same-sex sexual relationships but, rather, whether focussing on this should be a part of preaching the Gospel and thus the preserve of the evangelist (rather than, say, a pastor or teacher) in the Church. I suspect you and I therefore agree
But that is exactly what you have been doing from the get go.. You need to get your story straight.
Quote what Franklin said in full context. You are defaming the man. He consistently says all sinners deserve death. Shameful behavior on your part!
Ok, rip part of The Bible out and throw it away.....
I thought "Turn from your sin and repent" is the classical message of the evangelist. Education on what sin is definitely falls under this heading.
No, please re-read what I put both on this page and the first: I said from my second post on this thread that evangelists should stick to the Gospel....and then gone on to expand on what is and is not the Gospel