Liberal Christians and Islam

Moderator note: Please do not let this thread degenerate into personal attacks - it seems to be heading that way....

Lady Eagle:1_grouphug:

 

Fair enough. I think full disclosure is certainly enough.

Joseph Botwinick

 

So do tell, how many were claimed and how many were there? And how did you find out?

 

54C was one of my MOS's also El Guero. How bout those cranky old smoke generators?
(I know, totally off-topic)

 

So you believe that someone who believes that Christians and Muslims worship the same god and that Muslims have a different path to heaven expresses a Christian perspective? Sounds more like Universalism to me.

 

Wow: you did two things here: you told something that was blatantly not true (you even reproduced my question, so that really made you look foolish). Secondly you are bearing false witness. I did not "make a half hearted attempt to attack [your] credibility" as I asked you a question. You seem to be having difficulty with this point, so take a look at the statement that you reproduced in your reply.

You really should pause, take a deep breath, and think before you post a reply. It really looks foolish to make such claims, especially given the fact that you reproduced the question I asked, claimed that I didn't ask a question, accused me of attacking your credibility, and then made a half-hearted attempt to answer the question with a response that is nonsensical. After your bogus claims, this is what you offered:

That doesn't answer the question that I supposedly didn't ask, despite the fact that you reproduced it in your reply.

Undoubtedly, you don't know when to quit, so I can only imagine what response I will receive. I would suggest that, if you are concerned with your credibility, you might make an effort to answer the question you reproduced, rather than claim that I didn't ask a question.

And no: the question was NOT rhetorical.

Again, I'm embarrassed for you.

BiR

 

Some Christians believe they have to be baptized to be saved. Being mistaken does not necessarily mean they are not saved.

 

I had posted some numbers a couple of years ago, but I couldn't find that post. If you did, could you direct me to it? As I recall, the numbers were fairly substantial - what do you consider "not many"?

Oh, guessing....and you guessed a number that just happened to confirm your presupposition.

 

You do realize that there are native Moslems, Hindus, Buddhists, animists, Wiccans, etc here in America who have as much right to worship in their fashion as we do in ours.

 

People of different faiths live in America and occasionally give birth here. Native - Etymology: Middle English natif, from Middle French, from Latin nativus, from natus, past participle of nasci to be born -- more at Nation (linkie)

How do you interpret the First Amendment, specifically the religion clause?

What? Surely most soldiers realize that there are more religions than Christianity in America?

South America, Japan, Scandanavia, South Africa, Rwanda?

Would you be more comfortable excluding new immigrants based on their religion and/or exiling current citizens for theirs?

 

Perhaps to a person of limited thinking. That wasn't the term I used, anyway, but your reconstruction of what I did say (twisty, twisty).

Were all the writers Christian? The writers of the First Amendment were literate, eloquent men who, if they meant "Christianity only" would be protected, were fully capable of writing "Christianity only" instead of the broader "religion". They also specifically prohibited religious tests for office holders.

I didn't talk about what they( you) do (did), so you (they) needn't tell me (me) not to. Unless you are maintaining the soldiers are more dimwitted than average cititzens they (you) must realize that there are Americans who are of religions other than Christianity. I think you owe your fellow veterans (soldiers) an apology.

Problems counting?

Somalia!? Problems reading?

85% of Rwandans are Hutu and 15% are Tutsi; 56% are Roman Catholic, 26% are Protestant, just over 11% are Adventists and a mere 4.4% are Muslim (linkie). Are you saying that the entire 4.4% which are Muslim are 100% Hutu and that this 4.4% did all the slaughtering?

You would strip people of their citizenship and exile them from the land where they were born because of their religion! So much for liberty and justice for all. You sound un-American to me; anti-American even.