Life in the Universe

[saturneptune]

This came up recently in the Other Denominations forum.

Personally, I do not believe there is intelligent life such as people on other planets or in other galaxies. If there were, they would have to be sinless because Christ only died for humans on earth, since he had to be like us and he died once for all, not many times on different planets.

There might be little creepy crawly things like worms or something elsewhere, but I don't think that is the issue here.

Also, a point I made in the other forum is that the vast amount of space and seemingly infinite number of stars reflect the vastness and infinitude of God. It doesn't need to be occupied by anyone - it is God's creation and reflects Him and glorifies Him.

If there is life out there, all we know is that God created it. Why would they have to be sinless? Or why couldnt they be? Maybe they are sinful and God chose not to save. Maybe the plan of salvation for them is totally different. I have no idea. Christ died once for sinful man on this earth.

You are right. In the vastness of space, there does not need to be occupation, but then again, it is not a hard and fast rule that it is empty.

 

[Palatka51]

If there is life out there, all we know is that God created it. Why would they have to be sinless? Or why couldnt they be? Maybe they are sinful and God chose not to save. Maybe the plan of salvation for them is totally different. I have no idea. Christ died once for sinful man on this earth.

You are right. In the vastness of space, there does not need to be occupation, but then again, it is not a hard and fast rule that it is empty.

If life is out there, would you not consider that those 'persons' may have ate of the tree of life and are in effect beings of eternal life? I would like to entertain the aspect that Adam is the only creation that ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Angelic life did not have that choice (given that our knowledge of them and their life choices, is limited) it is safe to assume that we are the only fallen creation of God's own hands, His own Word and His Holy Spirit.

 

[saturneptune]

If life is out there, would you not consider that those 'persons' may have ate of the tree of life and are in effect beings of eternal life? I would like to entertain the aspect that Adam is the only creation that ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Angelic life did not have that choice (given that our knowledge of them and their life choices, is limited) it is safe to assume that we are the only fallen creation of God's own hands, His own Word and His Holy Spirit.

That is certainly possible. In fact, it would not surprise me if there is not any life out there, nor would it surprise me if there were.

One thing, this thread is not about aliens and UFOs here on earth. It is about any life out there. I think there is a very good possibility that the sightings here on earth are demon related. The two issues are completely different.

 

[Thinkingstuff]

Eve is the mother of all living.

peace to youraying:

How about angels? Aren't they living?

 

[Thinkingstuff]

BTW CS Lewis Out of the Silent Planet is a fun read for this type of speculation.

 

[Marcia]

You folks have such a limited view of God's marvelous creation.

Now that I have stoked a flame, let me explain myself.

What if all that there is, is here for the specific reason to support life on this one planet? Frankly I can't see a just God creating life as we know it (as angelic life is not life as we know it) only to wipe it out when all the elements are melted with fervent heat by the judgment of almighty God. (2Peter) The distance of the nearest star alone would take 5 years to travel to. And that system is a binary star system that emits such tremendous radiation to render any planet(s) that might be near it sterile. If there was life there and we wanted to meet them you would have to have a "Wagon Train" of ships to carry needed supplies to sustain life there and back again. We would have to carry enough of the air we breathe, the food we eat and the water we drink to get us 10 years worth of traveling. Not to mention the fuel, I seriously doubt that we would find an Exxon any where past the moon. Even if we were to try to meet them half way the armada of sips needed would use all the resources that man has ever produced to send just three men on a 5 year round trip.

Upon further reflection of mine above what if, think on this, The Earth is the only body in our vicinity of the universe that has an 'almost twin' orbiting it. While the Earth does bare the marks of collisions it is the moon that has gotten the worst of the deal. One third of the Earth's mass, the moon's mass attracts most of the objects that have a collision trajectory with Earth.

The Planets of the inner solar system also protect the Earth from much of the energy thrown from the sun. They orbit the sun on the same orbital plain as we do. Mercury aligns up with our orbit between us and the sun several times in our year around the sun thus absorbing much of the sun's radiation that is harmful to our way of life. Venus aligns up with our orbit 5 times in our year doing the same thing that Mercury does. What radiation is left over is deflected by the VanAlan magnetic belts. (MagneticPoles should be able to validate this info:tongue3: )

The outer planets are so massive that they actually attract other bodies that are headed our way. Jupiter, just a few years ago had a comet smash into it. That comet could very well have had our names on it.

As for any other planet out there only God knows the purpose for which He alone has destined for it. If He has put life there, that is His business and who am I to guess why. It, IMHO is for sustaining life here.

Think also on this one, Why does God commit only one chapter in His Word to His marvelous creative work and all the remaining chapters to His seeking man's repentance? He begins by looking and calling for Adam and ends Revelation by calling again for men to repent. It seems therefore that God has placed more importance upon His redemptive plan than we do on speculating about life..... out.... there.

Yes, and all that space and stuff out there just glorifies God. The fact that scientists don't know the number of suns, galaxies, etc in the universe shows how much vaster and greater God is than we can imagine if we can't even grasp the creation.

So in contrast to thinking God is limited by saying there is no life beyond earth, I think it is the opposite. The sheer vastness of the universe without having to have embodied "life" in it shows the limitlessness of God to us. Maybe it's a message to us; there is no need for other life to exist.

 

[Palatka51]

Yes, and all that space and stuff out there just glorifies God. The fact that scientists don't know the number of suns, galaxies, etc in the universe shows how much vaster and greater God is than we can imagine if we can't even grasp the creation.

So in contrast to thinking God is limited by saying there is no life beyond earth, I think it is the opposite. The sheer vastness of the universe without having to have embodied "life" in it shows the limitlessness of God to us. Maybe it's a message to us; there is no need for other life to exist.

And all of that is nothing to Him in comparison to His seeking our reconciliation. :godisgood:

 

[OldRegular]

I believe that if people would read and understand the last two chapters of the Book of Revelation they would see that this speculation is totally meaningless. And what does it have to do with Baptist Theology?

 

[zrs6v4]

:smilewinkgrin: Isn't heaven in a different part of the universe?

Or better yet, if heaven is in another dimension outside of time then when we get there will the Day of the Lord already have happened?

what if when everyone dies they all are dead at once from Abel to the last man who dies?

This may explain how when we die that we can immediatly be judged and go to our final destination rather be in a holding place

just a fun thought, hah

 

[Jedi Knight]

Romans 8:21-22 because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now. Sounds like we are center stage in the cosmic battle. :type: