Lockdown Critics May Have Some Valid Points

[KenH]

"So far, the U.S. has been unwilling to accept much risk in dealing with the coronavirus. Do we know enough now to change that calculus? The critics say yes — and they may well be right."

Lockdown Critics May Have Some Valid Points

I expect this viewpoint to become more and more prevalent as we change the calendar into May - and it should. From what we know so far there may no reason for the extraordinary fear that so many healthy people have about catching COVID-19. So far, unless someone has health problems or is elderly there appears to be only a small chance of dying from COVID-19, especially with treatment for severe cases. Hopefully, by the time June comes around the doom-and-gloomers will have either changed their tune or quieted down.

 

[JonC]

I go back to Georgia. That's the place to watch based on the number of cases and the increase of cases/ deaths with the state opening (if businesses do open).

They have implemented several measures to protect people while allowing businesses to open. We can see how well these measures work and, if they do work, know to what extent the U.S. overreacted. The downside would be if they do not work.

 

[Revmitchell]

Whether they increase or not it still needs to happen

 

[KenH]

Whether they increase or not it still needs to happen

There is no alternative but to carefully reopen the economy. Just how much further into debt can the government(taxpayers) go? Just how much more money can the Federal Reserve create out of thin air?

It needs to be done carefully for the benefit of the those who have become convinced that, even for healthy people who are not elderly, it is either stay home or else die. Hopefully, during the month of May they will come to understand that COVID-19 is not Ebola. It is not an automatic death sentence.

 

[Revmitchell]

There is no alternative but to carefully reopen the economy. Just how much further into debt can the government(taxpayers) go? Just how much more money can the Federal Reserve create out of thin air?


It needs to be done carefully for the benefit of the those who have become convinced that, even for healthy people who are not elderly, it is either stay home or else die. Hopefully, during the month of May they will come to understand that COVID-19 is not Ebola. It is not an automatic death sentence.

There are alot of things we can and should do. Shutting down the economy shouldnt be one of them.

 

[KenH]

There are alot of things we can and should do. Shutting down the economy shouldnt be one of them

True. Unfortunately, lots of Americans had the living daylights scared out of them back in mid-March and looked to government to please save them and make sure they made everyone else do what they wanted them to do.

 

[Benjamin]

If one neglects to express that it may be necessary to scale back the economy opening in order to do it safely, he is either heartless, a fool or has unwittingly fallen for into hyper political panic to guide his every thought and outburst.

On a positive note, I talked to guy in person the other day who said he didn’t know of one person who would be for opening up the economy without doing it slowly and methodically to ensure the safety of people. I didn’t bother to tell him to come by the Baptist Board, wouldn’t want to

 

[KenH]

he didn’t know of one person who would be for opening up the economy without doing it slowly and methodically

I am not aware of anyone like that, either.

 

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[Benjamin]

I am not aware of anyone like that, either.

Note in this very thread, I have not seen this guy bend even once from his one-track mind:

Whether they increase or not it still needs to happen

There are alot of things we can and should do. Shutting down the economy shouldnt be one of them.

Now, rather than take it out of context, complete the thought as written:

If one neglects to express that it may be necessary to scale back the economy opening in order to do it safely,

The Rev is the champion of this neglect, much could be said about such priorities..i.e. economical armageddon panic over a hyper political narrative.

 

[timtofly]

The economy would have failed either way, all get really sick and suffer at home, or die in the hospitals. Most probably just got sick at home and never realized it. You can compare US to Sweden.

Instead of testing for an elusive virus, they should have worked out a proven blood test to see who had it or did not. I still think that some claiming to have it were told they had it, but may not have tested positive. It is the government who controlled most of the results any way. There is such a short window, unless underlying factors place some near death. If you get tested past that window, it will come back negative. Then you have to wait 14 days, to again make sure you have no symptoms. Then you still do not know, or may never know, if you had it or not. That is the fear, because no one knows now who has had or who can still get it. Now I assume the rush will be to get an accurate test to look for antibodies, or just keep testing all those who go back to work, get sick, and have to be hospitalized.

 

[KenH]

That is the fear, because no one knows now who has had or who can still get it.

Americans have to get over their fear of this virus. People are gonna keep catching it, maybe, to at least some extent, for the rest of human history. Otherwise, I don’t see how we ever move forward. We may have tens of millions dying from starvation and the effects of malnutrition if there have to be no new cases before we can move forward.

 

[KenH]

By the way, there was a nice abundance of toilet tissue and paper towels, as well as chicken, at my local Walmart this morning. I have slowly been able to stock up on all three of those items the past 3 weeks, to the point that now I can just replace what I use as I go, as normal, while keeping some extra on hand, just in case more panic hoarding occurs.

 

[church mouse guy]

I think that this divides on political lines. The Democrats do not want to reopen and express fear. The GOP wants to get back to work and says that tens of millions of people have had this already. Organized labor does not want to reopen because they are trying to help Biden even though orders are shrinking and layoffs are beginning. My company texts me daily about CDC stuff that involves things that were in public knowledge six weeks ago. I really don't want to think about this mess anymore. Everyone keeps six feet away and we wash our hands every three minutes. We apply disinfectant to surfaces all the time. And, yes, the stores are well stocked on most things now.

 

[KenH]

I think that this divides on political lines.

Sadly, there is a lot of truth in that, my friend.

 

[Benjamin]

I think that this divides on political lines.

Yes, and that (hyper political narratives) is a major out of control bandwagon that I refuse to get on. Personally, my political lines have absolutely no influence on my opinions. ZERO!

 

[timtofly]

Americans have to get over their fear of this virus. People are gonna keep catching it, maybe, to at least some extent, for the rest of human history. Otherwise, I don’t see how we ever move forward. We may have tens of millions dying from starvation and the effects of malnutrition if there have to be no new cases before we can move forward.

Well fighting comes next. This was the easy part.

 

[church mouse guy]

Yes, and that (hyper political narratives) is a major out of control bandwagon that I refuse to get on. Personally, my political lines have absolutely no influence on my opinions. ZERO!

I would say that organized labor is opposed to ending the lockdown before June. They think that a bad economy will help Biden's election. Organized labor does not have much information about this virus. Although the CDC has given safe medical advice, they have not postulated how to reopen quickly to meet economic needs as it is absurd to think that the USA can continue to print money for a virus that has been as lethal as the Hong Kong flu was with a much smaller population. Nor have they addressed the response of the medical authorities in Taiwan where only 6 people died out of a population of 23 million but then our CDC was forced to study a medical cure for racism and Islamophobia and thus neglected to prepare for a pandemic however mild. American government is not very good. The Post Office delivers everything, for example, at a loss and then says that there needs to be a study of why they are losing money. Fauci is okay and doing the best that he can but he may be getting a lot of money from Gates for being on the board of his foundation and Brix's daughter actually works for Gates so you can see the pork barrel nature of the American government.

 

[Deacon]

It’s sure is easier to look back on decisions that were made in the past and criticize them after all the information is known.
It’s a lot harder to make decisions before the facts are known.

Our president took some bold steps rather early in the process that protected vulnerable citizens of the United States. He did this at a time when he was being strongly attacked by the media, by opposing politicians and the government bureaucracy he was charged to oversee.

Right or wrong, President Trump was the man for the job at a time when a dogged tenacity was needed to protect his country from an unknown threat.

Rob