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UZThD

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Along with the excellent points made thus far:

1. faculty seemingly should have accredited academic doctorates in the area they teach if the graduate area taught is an academic one as English Bible, languages or Systematic / Historical Theology.

How shall one who has himself avoided the rigor which should attend education in accredited institutions teach a topic rigorously? For example, I now supervise an Ethiopian educator's PhD research in the miaphysitism of an Ethiopian denomination. How could any but one who has rigorously studied historical and modern Christology himself efficiently supervise such a dissertation? (apologies for this personal example)

And the same is true, I think, in grad academic coursework. Of course, I cannot unqualifiedly say LBU's grad courses are below average in thoroughness or rigor because I don't have such a course in front of me to evaluate. But the materials, expectations, and prof-student interaction must be high, my hunch is LBU's is not. I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

Take this example: Wayne Grudem wrote a Systematic Theology for MDiv studies which are far below PhD studies. Grudem expresses himself on the passibility vs impassibility of God ; eternal relational subordination of the Son vs temporal subordination ; Word Flesh vs Word Man Christology ; Kenotism vs immutability ; Cessationism Vs Continuationism ; Pre Trib vs Post Trib and many other topics. Can one without an accredited doc in Theology adequately teach these? Maybe one could in exceptional cases, but more likely it will require a rigorous background with continuous research of the literature.

On the other hand, I wouldn't argue that practical theology cannot be taught well by one who has much effective experience but no accredited doc.

2. We should do the best we can for Christ in our learning. I would think that may be more likely will be done in accredited schools.

3. As already suggested, there are foreign, accredited schools which are cheaper by far than accredited USA ones. A doctorate might be earned in some of these by research in 2-3 years at a very reasonable cost. (But mine at UZ took four years).

My advice is to go accredited ; you DO NOT KNOWwhat God might use if you had it! (btw, I taught public school for 35 years) THanks for reading.

Be blessed,

Bill
 

gb93433

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I agree with your other points, but disagree with this strongly. Like it or not, today's technology is making it possible to have both rigor and physical distance in the same program. :)
You are right and wrong depending on the class. I would never trust someone to build my home who had never had sufficient experience on the job. I went to graduate school taught by Ph.D.'s who had never worked in the field they were teaching. By the time I went to grad school I had over 30 years of experience and saw how ignorant they really were.

When I taught at the university I taught using both online resources I had developed and secured, along with lecture in the classroom. Some professors were beginning to record their lectures for online use. The problem with everything online is that it does not allow a student to ask a question and for everyone to hear the answer. I would not want to answer a question numerous times by email for each student in a class.
 

Siberian

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You are right and wrong depending on the class. I would never trust someone to build my home who had never had sufficient experience on the job. I went to graduate school taught by Ph.D.'s who had never worked in the field they were teaching. By the time I went to grad school I had over 30 years of experience and saw how ignorant they really were.

When I taught at the university I taught using both online resources I had developed and secured, along with lecture in the classroom. Some professors were beginning to record their lectures for online use. The problem with everything online is that it does not allow a student to ask a question and for everyone to hear the answer. I would not want to answer a question numerous times by email for each student in a class.

Of course, there are sub-par attempts at distance ed (and sub-par traditional education, for that matter). That does not mean that rigor and DE are mutually exclusive. That was my point.

And there are excellent ways to facilitate questions and discussions within a DE model.
 

RG2

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And there are excellent ways to facilitate questions and discussions within a DE model.

I do have to say as someone married to a woman who is an extreme introvert, DE courses a lot of times offer those who aren't outspoken more of an opportunity to be a part of the course.
 

revmwc

Well-Known Member
If these are the outstanding alum, run away as fast as you can!

I know people who think Bill Gothard is a great man of God. Hadn't heard anything negative about him.

Here are others:
Carl Baugh founder, Creations Evidence Museum
Dr. David M. Carr is the new president of Midwestern Baptist College
Dr. Paul Chappel president of West Coast Baptist College in Lancaster California
Dr. Daniel Dorim Kim holds an Ed.D. from Louisiana Baptist University. He is the President of the American College of Medical Technology in Gardena, California
Gary Frazier president of Discovery Ministries, Inc.
 
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