Lou Martuneac
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Dear BB Readers:
Is salvation only for those who are willing to forsake everything?
John MacArthur affirms this is the saving message of Lordship Salvation. He wrote,
Now I opened this new thread want to discuss to how the LS apologists deal with the disturbing implications of the Lordship Salvation interpretation of the Gospel.
First, we have of course witnessed the mantra of “misrepresentation.” That is never going to go away because the Lordship apologists seek to redirect attention away from the obvious errors of Lordship advocates. They seek to avoid dealing plainly with the extreme statements such as the one above by MacArthur, and they attempt to create a personality clash where there is none. No man who rejects LS is safe form cries of “misrepresentation.” If you disagree with LS, you ether do not understand, can’t understand or are misrepresenting Lordship Salvation. You note a strong sense of Intellectual elitism coming from some of the LS apologists.
Second, LS apologists always retreat to the extra-biblical presuppositions drawn from the circle logic of five point Calvinism.
Let’s look at the Calvinism/Lordship connection. Lordship advocates try to legitimize the Lordship gospel through the presuppositions of Calvinism. The favorites are regeneration before faith and the error of faith is a gift. Both these extra-biblical teachings are thoroughly addressed and refuted by Brother George Zeller. See:
The Danger of Teaching Regeneration Precedes Faith
The Danger of Teaching that Faith is the Gift of God
What we have from the LS apologists is an attempt to justify the false interpretation of the Gospel known as Lordship Salvation through the equally egregious doctrinal errors of Calvinism and the extra-biblical extremes that flow from it.
Calvinism & Lordship Salvation: Two doctrinal errors combined into one colossal departure from a balanced biblical view of the plan of salvation.
Make no mistake: Lordship Salvation is a works based, man-centered, non-saving message. Couching the teaching of Lordship Salvation in terms of Reformed theology only worsens the doctrinal confusion and departure from Scripture that Lordship Salvation most certainly is. This is the genuine tragedy of Lordship Salvation!
May God protect unsuspecting believers from being deceived and falling into the trap of Lordship Salvation.
LM
Is salvation only for those who are willing to forsake everything?
John MacArthur affirms this is the saving message of Lordship Salvation. He wrote,
MacArthur is calling on the lost for a commitment to, “forsake everything” FOR salvation. This is not just over what should follow and be part of salvation. No, MacArthur says that to become a Christian a commitment to “forsake everything” is required FOR salvation.“Salvation is for those who are willing to forsake everything.” (John MacArthur, The Gospel According to Jesus, p. 78.)
Now I opened this new thread want to discuss to how the LS apologists deal with the disturbing implications of the Lordship Salvation interpretation of the Gospel.
First, we have of course witnessed the mantra of “misrepresentation.” That is never going to go away because the Lordship apologists seek to redirect attention away from the obvious errors of Lordship advocates. They seek to avoid dealing plainly with the extreme statements such as the one above by MacArthur, and they attempt to create a personality clash where there is none. No man who rejects LS is safe form cries of “misrepresentation.” If you disagree with LS, you ether do not understand, can’t understand or are misrepresenting Lordship Salvation. You note a strong sense of Intellectual elitism coming from some of the LS apologists.
Second, LS apologists always retreat to the extra-biblical presuppositions drawn from the circle logic of five point Calvinism.
Let’s look at the Calvinism/Lordship connection. Lordship advocates try to legitimize the Lordship gospel through the presuppositions of Calvinism. The favorites are regeneration before faith and the error of faith is a gift. Both these extra-biblical teachings are thoroughly addressed and refuted by Brother George Zeller. See:
The Danger of Teaching Regeneration Precedes Faith
The Danger of Teaching that Faith is the Gift of God
What we have from the LS apologists is an attempt to justify the false interpretation of the Gospel known as Lordship Salvation through the equally egregious doctrinal errors of Calvinism and the extra-biblical extremes that flow from it.
Calvinism & Lordship Salvation: Two doctrinal errors combined into one colossal departure from a balanced biblical view of the plan of salvation.
Make no mistake: Lordship Salvation is a works based, man-centered, non-saving message. Couching the teaching of Lordship Salvation in terms of Reformed theology only worsens the doctrinal confusion and departure from Scripture that Lordship Salvation most certainly is. This is the genuine tragedy of Lordship Salvation!
May God protect unsuspecting believers from being deceived and falling into the trap of Lordship Salvation.
LM