Luke 24:21 says it was the third day "since these things", not "this thing", i.e., not 'the crucifixion'.

[Alan Dale Gross]

According to Luke they were talking about "all these things which had happened." (Luke 24:14).

This is the inspired writer of scripture who wrote this, not some statement by someone who could have been mistaken, and "all these things which had happened" would certainly have included the sealing of the tomb.

The statement of Jesus' disciples on the Emmaus road, "today is the third day since these things happened" (Luke 24:21) is explained as being the time from the last recorded scriptural event concerning Jesus, the sealing of the tomb, until the day the disciples met Jesus on the Emmaus road.

When Jesus referred to His Resurrection "on the third day", He was using the day of His death, at His crucifixion, as the starting point (Wednesday, The Passover, the Preparation Day, Nisan 14, the day before the Annual High Day Sabbath on Thursday, Nisan 15, when no work could be done including His crucifixion and burial),

but a different starting point (one day later, the Annual High Day Sabbath on Thursday, Nisan 15) is used here by Cleopas.

Therefore, while Jesus' "third day" was the second normal Weekly Sabbath, Saturday, Nisan 17,

Cleopas' "third day" was on Sunday, Nisan 18, (as they were speaking on the Road to Emmaus).

Therefore, the Emmaus Road encounter is not proof that Jesus did not die on a Wednesday, nor proof that He Rose on Sunday morning.

Luke 24:21 says it was the third day "since these things happened", on Thursday, which was including Jesus being Laid in the tomb and the guards set in place, etc., with that third day being Sunday when they were talking on the Road to Emmaus,

and Cleopas was not referring to it being the third day since "this thing", singular, happened, i.e., not that it was the third day, then, since 'the crucifixion'.

And you will notice 'the crucifixion' is not mentioned as being the starting point of Cleopas' numbering of the third day which he was specifically talking about, because it was never his intention to count the third day he was talking about as being counted from Jesus' crucifixion.

 

[37818]

Luke 24:20, . . . and have crucified him.

 

[canadyjd]

So, those on the road, when saying “these things” must have included the account of the empty tomb. So, three days since the discovery of the empty tomb.

Peace to you

 

[Alan Dale Gross]

Luke 24:21 says it was the third day "since these things happened", on Thursday, which was including Jesus being Laid in the tomb and the guards set in place, etc., with that third day being Sunday when they were talking on the Road to Emmaus,

The crucifixion of Jesus was not the only thing they knew about that had happened.

Luke 24:20, . . . and have crucified him.

By "these things", in the plural, are you saying that it could not include anything but the crucifixion?

and Cleopas was not referring to it being the third day since "this thing", singular, happened, i.e., not that it was the third day, then, since 'the crucifixion'.

Don't you think it would be like saying, "it's been three days since 'these things, the crucifixion', took place."

A little awkward.

That's too jumbled up with the wrong number of 'things' that took place, because you are saying that there was only one 'thing' that took place that he was referring to, the crucifixion, but he didn't refer to one 'thing'. He said "these things".

Common Misunderstandings
"Several verses in the gospel accounts, when taken alone, can seem to contradict the conclusions we have reached here
(that Jesus was crucified on Wednesday).

"But when all the available evidence is gathered, they fit in quite well with a Wednesday crucifixion and Sabbath resurrection.

"In most cases, the true meaning of these verses depends on seeing what they really say without reading an interpretation into them. This is one of the cardinal principles of Bible study: The plain, common sense meaning of a scripture is to be preferred over a more fanciful one.

"Luke 24:21 is one of these misunderstood verses: "Indeed, besides all this, today is the third day since these things happened."

"Two of the disciples, traveling to Emmaus, were conversing with the Resurrected Christ, though they did not know it was He (verses 13-16).

"They were rehearsing what had happened in Jerusalem to Jesus by the chief priests and rulers of Judea (verses 18-20).

"This conversation occurred on Sunday, the same day that the women, Peter and John had gone to the tomb only to find it empty. Yet these disciples heading to Emmaus say that it had only been three days, not four. How do we reconcile this to the facts that we have proved?

"The key is in the repetition of the words "all these things," "these things" and "the things" of verses 14, 18-19 and 21...

"The fact that is often forgotten is that their ignominious actions against Him did not end with delivering Him to Pilate for crucifixion! Notice Matthew 27:62-66:

On the next day, which followed the Day of Preparation, the chief priests and Pharisees gathered together to Pilate, saying, "Sir, we remember, while He was still alive, how that deceiver said, 'After three days I will rise.' Therefore command that the tomb be made secure until the third day, lest His disciples come by night and steal Him away, and say to the people, 'He has risen from the dead.' So the last deception will be worse than the first." Pilate said to them, "You have a guard; go your way, make it as secure as you know how." So they went and made the tomb secure, sealing the stone and setting the guard.

"The day after "the Day of Preparation" was Thursday, the first day of Unleavened Bread! These Jewish leaders went to Pilate on the holy day to "guarantee" that their Messiah would not rise from the dead! And with the guard in place and the tomb sealed, they felt certain nothing more would happen.

"Thus, when the two disciples on the road to Emmaus say that Sunday "is the third day since these things happened," they are counting from the last despicable actions of the chief priests and Pharisees on Thursday, not Wednesday.

"Note that their words preclude a Friday crucifixion as well, since Sunday is only the second day from Friday."

'After Three Days' 'After Three Days'

 

[37818]

By "these things", in the plural, are you saying that it could not include anything but the crucifixion?

No. "These things" did not exclude the crucifixion.

 

[Alan Dale Gross]

“these things” must have included the account of the empty tomb.

What did they know about an empty tomb?

 

[Alan Dale Gross]

No. "These things" did not exclude the crucifixion

No, of course it didn't.

"These things" does exclude 'the crucifixion' as being the one and only item he is referring to, however.

We can't automatically assume he was referring to the crucifixion, otherwise he would have said, "since that happened".

 

[37818]

. . . And they said unto him, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people: And how the chief priests and our rulers delivered him to be condemned to death, and have crucified him. But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, to day is the third day since these things were done.

 

[canadyjd]

When they said “three days since these things occurred” it seems logical to me the reference would be to the last thing that had occurred in the series of events. The discovery of the empty tomb.

Therefore, the passage cannot be used to attempt to determine the date of the crucifixion.

Peace to you

 

[37818]

That third day since was our Sunday. The day of the resurrection.

The second day since would be our Saturday.
So the first day since. Being Friday.
Making Wednesday the day before said events.

Wednesday Mark 14:12, And the first day of unleavened bread, when they killed the passover, his disciples said unto him, Where wilt thou that we go and prepare that thou mayest eat the passover?

 

[kyredneck]

Therefore, the passage cannot be used to attempt to determine the date of the crucifixion.

Lol, that won't stop @37818, he's obsessed with it...