Madly in Love with You

I concur. My favorite Christian songs are modern worship style. Of course, some of my least favorite Christian songs are also modern worship style.

 

Stefan, with that we agree. Unless you count... oh, never mind.

 

I understand that you like it, but I've checked out a whole lot of it and I have found it to be seriously wanting.

In fact, you may be aware that I left my church not very long ago. One of the chief reasons I left was because of the "Jesus is my girlfriend" music. At first, I would just get up and go get a cup of coffee and look at the bulletin board when they would sing these things, but they just got so bad that the only appropriate way to speak up was to say that I couldn't be a part of that anymore.

Give me "Holy, Holy, Holy" and "There is a Fountain" any day of the week.

Now Playing: Jacob's Trouble - "Door Into Summer"

 

Mike -

No one here speaks against those hymns, do they? I love them myself. But often, I've found, that a newer song (and even one I might write) will say what I'm thinking better. The problem, as I've said before, is that the hymns have been sifted through the hymnals and churches of the ages to come up with the ones we sing today.

The situation remains that there is not a sifting process for these new songs other than the direction of the Holy Spirit and prayer. I will expressly not use "girlfriend" songs, for the same reason they offend you. They are 1) often shallow, not presenting any "meat" and 2) often musically uninteresting. But even musically, if the song is lyrically sound, I'll overlook the musical aspect.

I will not lead a song in worship just because it's on the top 20 Christian songs this week. I have a process of study, Scripture, and even time before I'll consider a song for worship leadership in our service. Just my process, and not everyone's.

 

And that's a decision that you have to make before God. For me, God was calling me to leave a church that used that sort of music in it's worshi-tainment.

Now Playing: Peter Mayer - "Music Box"

 

Thats great Mike, but that does not give you the right to state that all modern worship songs are not honoring to God.

 

Forgive me if I seem dense... not much sleep last night. Are you lumping us (worship leaders that include "modern worship" songs) all together as people that are involved in 'worshi-tainment"?

 

Why am I any less entitled to my opinion than you or Joshua?

Now Playing: Roger Guth - "Cowboy Ballet"

 

If you were one of the two people who led worship at that church, yes.

Now Playing: NRBQ - "Live at Mountain Stage"

 

Thanks for clearing that up for me. I couldn't tell if I was being insulted or not. That's pretty tired!! :laugh:

 

No one said you were not entitled to your opinion, and I have no problem with you leaving your church because you feel God wanted you to do that.

The problem comes when you hold others to the same standard. You are painting with way too broad of a brush. It would be the equivalent of saying that all churches that use traditional hymns are dead and not honoring God.

There are churches that are honoring God using hymns. There are churches that are honoring God using more modern music. There are churches that are honoring God using a blend of both.

 

i agree with MickMck...

along with my opinion of: anything to do with entertainment - should not be allowed in the church.

i speak more of the church building - because i think of when Jesus tipped over the tables in the temple.

it could apply to our spiritual life as well... why the entertainment? if its entertainment - is it God honoring? is it clearly God-honoring instead of having to ask others if they think its God-honoring?

 

I was very clear that my opinion is just my opinion and what God called me to do was not necessarily what God called someone else to do.

What is "pleasing to God" is a bit more difficult to pin down but, for me, I don't see the trend in happy-clappy, Jesus is my girlfriend, look at me ain't I spiritual, worship music as honoring to God. But, again, that's just me.

You guys are free to worship anyway you like. However, I'm going to continue to get up and go get my coffee when I hear that music in church.

I know Joshua's going to freak out when he reads that, but it's not a personal attack on anyone, it's just that, at the end of the day, I have to be faithful to what God is calling me to do.

Now Playing: Ella Fitzgerald and Count Basie - "Ella and Basie"

 

that reminds me of stony ground hearers...
they dont have a whole lotta fruit - so they show off their branches...

 

Guess that depends on your definition of "freak out!" I certainly don't want you to go against what God is telling you to do. Likewise, I'll continue to move in the direction God leads me. I'll see you in heaven, if not before, and join you in worship around the throne... where no one will need worship leaders. Who needs to be prompted to worship when the Father's right there?!

 

Scarlett, I love that song you posted. It is one of my favorites of the more modern stuff out there. Yet I am quite sure there are folks on here that will find something wrong with it...

oh well.

 

huh

I am not skilled to understand

A new one


But anyways....Looks like on a scale of 1 to 10 everyone here rates "madly" just a bit higher than cancer....

So I guess the big 2 questions are:1) Why would any Christian who is capable of writing a song write "You (whoever that is) are my boyfriend" dross like "madly" & similar? And 2) Why o why o why o why would it catch on?

 

RE: Madly in love...

I don't know. I kind of think worship songs ought to mention Christ by name. "You" could be anyone. I am not opposed to modern worship songs. I just want them clearly about Christ.