Theodore A. Jones
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However Jn. 1:13 refutes that assumption. What are your opinions?
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Major "Christian" denomination alleges that God has created each person in their mother's womb.
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How does John 1:13 refute the assumption?
Theodore A. Jones
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"children born NOT! of natural descent etc." Jn. 1:13 Natural birth caused by casual human sexual copulation is incapable of producing a child of God. Every authentic child of God is created by God. Jesus is the only begotten son of God and is therefore the only person that has been created in his mothers womb. No other persons have his distinction.
That major "Christian" denomination referenced asserts that God has created all persons in their mother's womb which is a blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
Alrighty then!
Theodore A. Jones
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Is your response a positive support of or denigration?
Which denomination are you referring to?
Theodore A. Jones
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Well now gate keeper why don't you make a guess? OK? Been a long day for me and I'm ready to retire for the night. Will bring you up to speed tomorrow. OK?
Scripture teaches God forms our human spirit within us, so our physical being is created biologically, but our human spirit is created by God spiritually. But as created, we are made sinners, thus spiritually dead. Now for those born anew, we are regenerated, made alive together with Christ, thus no longer spiritually dead. Thus we become spiritual children of God when we are born anew, and this gives us the right to become [physical] children of God at Christ's second coming.
Tomorrow will be fast enough. It's just that I don't keep up on what the Presbyterians, Methodists, Lutherns, Episcopalians, et al are doing. It was an honest question nothing gatekeeper about it.
Gate keeper? Oh brother, it would have been easier to just answer the question.
Off-hand, I'm getting the idea that we have a "testing the water troll-wannabe" here.
Theodore A. Jones
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Obtain "Life Way" publication "Explore the Bible" edition 'winter 2017-18', Acts 13-28 pp 73-81 lesson "Value All" Jan.21. re. sentences 2&3 etc. The postulate"Life Way" has stated is the erroneous error of asserting that natural birth is the methodology by which the children of God are produced. Jn. 1:13 overrules that assumption.
Obtain "Baptist Faith and Message" article 3. It is the subordinating statement cited to me when I contacted Life Way and was used to overrule Jn. 1:13 & Jn. 8:44.
Jesus' statement in John eight specifically identifies any personages asserting that their natural birth is the casual factor by which they are the offspring of God is countered by "Ye are the children of your father the Devil".
Have a nice day.
You seem to have a weird interpretation of scripture.
From the publications you cited, I assume the denomination you are referring to is the SBC. As you familiarize yourself with this Board, you'll find that I am not now nor have I ever been affiliated with the SBC.
Theodore A. Jones
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Isn't He quoted saying that only a few ever actually find the gate? I suppose you'll not have any better sense than to argue with Him that his opinion of that is not true also.
Theodore A. Jones
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I am not aware of what your religious affiliation is and really will not be favorably impressed even if I were to know. I only know of how the site is titled as being "Baptist" and the protective hedge around that title you've erected and maintain. It is my conviction that at present there is not any contemporary church that is headed by Jesus Christ because of being founded upon incorrect soteriological assumption, i.e. the bad seed.
Theodore A. Jones
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No one is born again of God with out first hearing that it is a sin, which is unforgivable, NOT to have the faith to confess directly to God that he is truly sorry Jesus, the only begotten son of God, was murdered when he was crucified and be baptized into his confession. There are no exceptions since not doing so it is a deliberate willful disobedience of the law that was added in regard to the sin of murdering Jesus Christ by crucifixion.
Hi Theodore, I did not see any response to my answer, just a different assertion.
1) We are physically made in our mother's womb.
2) Our human spirit is formed within us.
3) When we are spiritually born anew, after having believed, we were physically alive, but spiritually dead, and not in our mother's womb.
4) Your initial question and my response did not address how we are born spiritually anew, but God causes the regeneration.
5) Your follow up assertions seem unlikely to further the ministry of Christ. Goodbye Van
1) We are physically made in our mother's womb.
2) Our human spirit is formed within us.
3) When we are spiritually born anew, after having believed, we were physically alive, but spiritually dead, and not in our mother's womb.
4) Your initial question and my response did not address how we are born spiritually anew, but God causes the regeneration.
5) Your follow up assertions seem unlikely to further the ministry of Christ. Goodbye Van
Theodore A. Jones
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I would like to read a word of testimony from you. How did you "receive the faith to confess directly to God that he is truly sorry Jesus"...? Clarification of your statement would also be appreciated.
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