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Man left to himself?

Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by 4study, Aug 31, 2005.

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  1. BobRyan

    BobRyan Well-Known Member

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    Let me ask a pointed question. You have probably seen what is happening in New Orleans in the hurricane's aftermath. Pick a looter - in what way is God influencing that person's actions? God could prevent every bit of that nonsense, and yet He doesn't. How is His influence at work in people like those?
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    God SHOWS what His influence is from PAGE 1 !!

    God speaks to the murdering plans/thoughts/anger of Cain BEFORE he murders and tells him to "resist the devil and he will flee from you" (in essence).

    It is not a question of "IS God powerful enough to kill Cain before Cain kills Abel"!

    IT is NOT a question of "IS God POWERFUL enough to kill Adam before Adam sins"

    It is NOT a question of "IS God POWERFUL enough to stop Eve from sinning when GOD OWNS Eden"!!

    It is NOT a question of POWER! Or of MAKING robots do or not do something.

    It is the totally foreign concept to Calvinists - called "Free Will".

    IN Christ,

    Bob
     
    #41 BobRyan, Sep 3, 2005
  2. 4study

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    BobRyan,

    You make some good points.

    I'd like to think I'm fairly educated on the Arminian vs. Calvinism debate. I'm very familiar with both sides.

    I don't consider myself either a Calvinist or an Arminian so there are certain terms like "choice" that are difficult for me to explain. Like "free will" for instance is not a term I use. I don't believe in it. Yet at the same time, I don't believe in "total depravity".

    I agree that the very thought of discussing such things is a great undertaking no matter how hard we try to make ourselves understood. But sometimes I enjoy the challenge and attempt it anyway.
     
    #42 4study, Sep 3, 2005
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