Featured Man-made Doctrines of faith/worship 2

Another man-made doctrine. Unmarried men without children should be on the front lines of war.

Another one - The U.S. flag should be displayed prominently during worship service and songs to the country should be sung.

Another one - The tithe is meant to pay the salaries of the church leaders,

A half-hour to hour sermon consisting of 5% Bible and 95% ad-lib has to be a part of every Sunday Christian gathering.

Sorry, getting carried away.

 

Does anybody know what this guy is talking about?

 

I definitely agree that we need grace to put up with views that are different from ours with the exception of primary doctrines. I can appreciate you not saying that Preterism is a man-made doctrine, even though you strongly disagree with it. (I am with you on the gap theory.) As long as the support for the view/teaching is from Scripture alone, I don't call it "man-made".

 

Problems continue when the people who disagree each use Scripture alone to state their case. Your phrase "believed as literally as possible" shows one of the roots of the problem, which has to do with our hermeneutics. This could lead to the believe that anyone who has a different view of interpretation is promoting a man-made view when it's just a different interpretation.

 

So true, Brother. Ultimately, that does seem to become our definition. Everyone who believes something other than what I believe MUST be following a man-made doctrine or be a heretic. There is no possibility that we could be wrong.

 

Yes, "stupid" preterism insists on taking some of futurism's favorite proof-texts at face value. I can see why that would be a problem for you.

 

Thank you brother, I take your point.

 

No you don't. What you do, do is to redefine the word "generation" out of its context in order to fit your presupposition.

 

I wasn't just thinking of "generation" but the whole gamut of other time-indicators, like "some standing here" and "soon" and "at hand". If it was just one verse or two that we were talking about then it would be iffy. But there are almost a hundred of such time statements.

 

Obviously there are strong feelings on preterism vs futurism. Just as obviously, we preterists think those in the futurist camp are the ones who redefine generation, and it's the futurists who redefine the word. I thought the theme of this post was about what defines man-made doctrines. This could easily turn into another "end times debate". Doesn't it come down to nothing more than we have different interpretations of the Scriptures? Neither view uses anything beyond the Scriptures to support their view.

If one or the other is a man-made doctrine, let's make our case on something besides opinion and the fact that we disagree with it. Without something stronger than disagreement, every view we disagree with must be a man-made doctrine.

 

One needs to make sure that one does not take this too far like the Reformation Lutheran Church in Wichita, Kansas. They had no problems with a non-repentant baby-killer being a member of their church. There are evil theologies out there which need to be denounced.

There is a difference between the parable of the wheat and weeds and the man who was sleeping with his step-mother.

Since, you didn't quote the Bible, I don't feel obligated to restrain myself to the Bible when I quote Ronald Reagan.

"So in your discussions of the nuclear freeze proposals, I urge you to beware the temptation of pride - the temptation blithely to declare yourselves above it all and label both sides equally at fault, to ignore the facts of history and the aggressive impulses of an evil empire, to simply call the arms race a giant misunderstanding and thereby remove yourself from the struggle between right and wrong, good and evil."

While I don't think preterist or futurist to be evil there are evil doctrines concerning abortion, homosexuality, and other things which are not just "theological misunderstandings".

At other times, there are situations where, although a theology may not be evil, it is definitely man-made and the creators of the theology admitted as much. Some deny this despite the clear evidence.

 

You make a good point, Marty. That is a great Reagan quote. To modify my earlier view, if someone promotes what Scriptures clearly teach against, this is a man-made doctrine.

 

To me most man made doctrines are

 

Man made doctrines to me are when we make our own preferences and convictions the norm for all others!

 

Hard to have a gab when creation only thousands of years old!

 

None of us here are Apostles, so all of our theologies to some degree have Isms in it!

 

This generation was the generation Jesus was addressing. Any other interpretation is to redefine the word "generation" out of its context in order to fit your presupposition.

 

Sigh, you need to do a word study on that word. You have no idea what you are talking about.

 

I think it is you that doesn't know what you are talking about. Do a search for "this generation" in scripture and you will always find it means the generation that was being addressed.
You futurists only try to make it mean something else to fit your Scofieldite views.

 

No we work to interpret scripture rather than rely on your Jesuit views.