Many Bapist follow protestant interpretations

[37818]

Luke 22:20-21, ". . . the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you. But, behold, the hand of him that betrayeth me is with me on the table. . . ."
John 13:2, ". . . supper being ended, . . ." This is changed to "during supper" to support the denial Judas eat our Lord's rememberance, holding the view Luke's gospel account to be by teaching order rather than mainly a chronological order (Luke 1:3),.

 

[Revmitchell]

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[Alan Gross]

Are you saying that some 'want to' deny Judas took part in the Lord's Supper, as if the Lord's Supper has some 'effect', or 'benefit', with relationship to 'Salvation'?

 

[37818]

Are you saying that some 'want to' deny Judas took part in the Lord's Supper, as if the Lord's Supper has some 'effect', or 'benefit', with relationship to 'Salvation'?

No. But the Catholic view one gets eternal life from the mass, interpreting Jesus' teaching in that way from John 6:54. Protestants never changed their view about Judas going out before hand.

 

[37818]

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Yeah, I failed to noiice I misspelled "Baptists." Even if this is not the reason tfor your comment.

 

[rsr]

This is unpersuasive because Catholic theologians have been divided on the issue, but both Augustine and Aquinas (not to mention Chrysostom) maintained that Judas did in fact receive the elements of the Last Supper. Protestants have also been divided. Beza defended Judas' presence; Calvin considered it "probable" that Judas partook. And the list could go on.

 

[Alan Gross]

If there could be invented a reason for the difference between whether Judas took part in the Lord's Supper with Jesus, or not, (apart from being faithful to the text) it would have to be exclusively Satanic, with regard to any association of the event relating to 'Salvation'.

 

[rlvaughn]

And the list could go on.

Yes. Among Baptists with whom I have generally associated, some (perhaps the majority) strenuously argue that Judas was not still present for the institution of the Lord's Supper, while others of us think he was. I really don't see any way to divide this into a Baptist vs. Protestant vs. Catholic debate.

 

[Alan Gross]

Or yeah, a debate at all, except regarding some 'value' attributed by someone to the Lord's Supper other than Ceremonial/ Memorial, as it says.

Wild departures(?)

Maybe our good old Baptist brotheren are reinterating a segmentation of the lost from the Saved, for a (stretched/ unneeded) point for Closed Communion?

Odd to mwah.

 

[rlvaughn]

Maybe our good old Baptist brotheren are reinterating a segmentation of the lost from the Saved, for a (stretched/ unneeded) point for Closed Communion?

That is the case of those I know, a felt need that Judas not be there to support closed communion. I believe in closed communion as well, but do not have that felt need concerning Judas.

 

[Alan Gross]

No. But the Catholic view one gets eternal life from the mass, interpreting Jesus' teaching in that way from John 6:54. Protestants never changed their view about Judas going out before hand.

Their highchair must have tipped over and caused them to bump their head.