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Many in Jordan See Old Enemy in Attack: Israel

LadyEagle

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Many in Jordan See Old Enemy in Attack: Israel

By MICHAEL SLACKMAN
Published: November 12, 2005
ZARQA, Jordan, Nov. 11 - The Maktoum Mosque was crowded with worshipers for Friday Prayer as the imam sharply criticized the suicide attacks on three hotels in Amman, saying those who committed the crimes were not Muslims, no matter what they called themselves.

The scene Friday night in Zarqa near a family home and former residence, left, of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, chief of Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia.
Afterward, on the street, people agreed that whoever committed such an act could not be a Muslim. But many meant this literally, that the attack must have been carried out by outsiders, namely Israeli agents.

"Who said it is them?" asked Ahmed al-Zawahrah, referring to claims that members of a radical Islamic group were behind the blasts. "It could be Israel."
NY Times
 

KenH

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From the article: 'Dawoud al-Shoryan, a prominent writer and journalist from Saudi Arabia, says he is not convinced that those who blame Israel really believe it. But, he added, many people are deeply angry at United States policy in the region, including its occupation of Iraq, and blaming Israel is a way of conferring some degree of legitimacy on a crime that would be considered unspeakable if committed by a Muslim.

"They try to hide the hideous face of terrorism by hanging it on the United States and Israel," he said. "Shifting the accusation is nothing but a subconscious attempt to justify the act."'


Kind of reminds me of when I was a youngster in elementary school and refused to admit that the Confederacy lost the War Between the States despite the evidence to the contrary.
 

LadyEagle

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pn, those might have been the initial reports. But the typical scene in an indoor homicide bomber attack is a hole blown in the ceiling. (look at pics from other attacks in Israel, Egypt, and elsewhere). They can usually identify the homicide bombers because there is a torso in one spot and a head attached to the upper torso in another spot. One homicide bomber, whose bomb failed to detonate, has already confessed on Jordanian TV and al-Qaeda (al-Zarqawi) has claimed responsibility.
 

KenH

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Anyone who thinks that Israel was behind this dastardly deed has absolutely no credibility.
 

Johnv

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Originally posted by KenH:
Anyone who thinks that Israel was behind this dastardly deed has absolutely no credibility.
Indeed. The same is true of anyone who thinks there were bombs in the cieling.
 

poncho

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The credibility experts strike again.
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prophecynut

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Lady Eagle

In the first picture of the truthseeker link, notice the severed wood beam above the soldier. Further back of the wood beam is a silver insulated air duct that remains intact. Also an air vent above the wood beam remains intact.The "L" shape air duct that angles towards the two men was severed and pushed towards their location by the blast. The bomb location had to be above the aluminum step latter that was used to get a closer look at the damage. Notice how high the damage is yet little damange to the cream colored wall and floor under the latter.

The bomb had to be planted in the ceiling.

http://thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=3813
 

guitarpreacher

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Originally posted by KenH:
Kind of reminds me of when I was a youngster in elementary school and refused to admit that the Confederacy lost the War Between the States despite the evidence to the contrary.
Hey Ken, we didn't really lose the war. We were just behind when time ran out.
 

LadyEagle

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Originally posted by prophecynut:
Lady Eagle

In the first picture of the truthseeker link, notice the severed wood beam above the soldier. Further back of the wood beam is a silver insulated air duct that remains intact. Also an air vent above the wood beam remains intact.The "L" shape air duct that angles towards the two men was severed and pushed towards their location by the blast. The bomb location had to be above the aluminum step latter that was used to get a closer look at the damage. Notice how high the damage is yet little damange to the cream colored wall and floor under the latter.

The bomb had to be planted in the ceiling.

http://thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=3813
So the woman would-be homicide bomber must be a stooge to throw everyone off the trail? What about Zarqawi claming responsibility? He is working for the Mossad? I remain thoroughly unconvinced of this hypothesis.
 

Matt Black

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The way I heard it the bombings are beginning to turn Jordanian public opinion (at best neutral and at worse pro-AQ, what with al-Zaqarwi being one of their own) against al-Qaeeda, which can only be a good thing...

Guess we get different news over here :confused:
 

hillclimber

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Sounds to me like the Muslim radicals have learned real well how to spin the truth just like our liberal friends currently in control of the Dem. Party.
 

prophecynut

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Lady Eagle, search "Mossad false flag" on www.rense.com or the internet. Here's one example from rense:


http://www.rense.com/general67/demand.htm

DON'T permit Blair and Bush (exposed as monstrous liars about the Iraq war), to now frighten and stampede our nations into global war against the entire Muslim world.
150 years ago the Illuminati began planning for global war involving the Muslim world, Judasim and Christianity. They are well on their way to achieving this goal. According to Bible prophecy this is exactly what will happen.

Israel's financial and political reins are not in the hands of Jacob's descendents, they are in the hands of Esau's descendents and those "who are of the synagogue of Satan who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars" (Rev. 3:9). The counterfeit Israel of today was set up and financed by the satanic seed line of the Edomites.

Zarqawi might be be working for the Mossad and financed by them. Mossad could of planted the bomb to coincide with the terrorist's bombing. Zarqawi could be acting independently, I don't know for sure.
 

prophecynut

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Jordan security aide and 10 others resign
The Associated Press

TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 15, 2005


A security official, meanwhile, said lights in sections of both the Radisson and Hyatt hotels went out just before the near-simultaneous blasts in apparently coordinated fashion.

A man who was working as a disc jockey at the Radisson, where a Jordanian-Palestinian wedding reception was bombed, also recalled how the ballroom where the party was being held mysteriously went dark.

"The lights at the wedding hall went off seconds, maybe just one second, before the blast, although there was electricity outside the room in the corridor, the nearby lobby area and the reception," said Fadi al-Kessi.

"For some reason, I looked to my right in the darkness and saw what looked liked lightning, then there was a loud boom. It felt like the explosion came from the ceiling, then people started running out."
http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/11/15/news/jordan.php
 

prophecynut

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Being a qualified electrician, I can articulate Xymphora's theory. The bombs may have been wired directly to emergency lighting modules.

Emergency lighting works on the principle of the mains voltage supplying a constant trickle charge to nickel cadmium or lead acid batteries contained within the module.

In the event of mains failure or disruption, the battery back-up will begin to supply current almost immediately. The few seconds interlude that the DJ says ocurred between the lights going out and the bomb going-off can be explained by the momentary time-lag caused by the module switching from mains supply to battery back-up.

I am uncertain as to what specific level of voltage is required to detonate a bomb. A British-standard emergency lighting module operates at 24 volts on battery back-up. If this or a lesser voltage is sufficient to detonate a bomb, then it would be entirely possible to wire a incendiary device in line with the battery so that when the mains supply is switched-off the bomb will explode!

A check of the Raddison and Hyatt hotels' maintenance logs should reveal if any electrical contractors carried out any recent work on the lighting systems!! If so, then we may well have our 'smoking-gun'.
The QuoMan
Taken from "Comments" at:

http://xymphora.blogspot.com/2005/11/bomb-trigger.html
 

Matt Black

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PN, I'm sure the families of Ken Bigley and his two American colleagues who were murdered by al-Zaqarwi a few months ago will really appreciate your words and take comfort from the fact that somebody who doesn't exist killed their loved ones :rolleyes:

Like all true hard-core fundamentalists, al-Qaeda hate their co-religionists more than they hate the adherents of other religions. So, yes, the victims were Sunni Muslims but you have to understand that in the eyes of A-Q they were not proper Muslims but rather liberal backsliding compromising traitors to Islam. Islamists like A-Q started out by targeting ordinary Muslims eg: in Egypt in the 1990s before they moved on to bigger targets like the secular West; this outrage is just a reversion to type.
 

poncho

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Al-Zarqawi, An American False Flag Operative

Bruce Kennedy | June 25 2004

Over the past months, JUS has been watching a frightening trend of “false flag” operations beening waged by US intelligence. The latest in the series is Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi, who has been accredited with everything from the Ricin attacks (which later turned out to be fake) to the resistance in Fallujah. An amazing enemy in deed for a man who has the staring role in an American “False Flag” operation.

As America escalates its “war on terrorism” which in fact is a war on Islam, the need to escalate disinformation and propaganda is also prevalent, particularly when the American public is loosing its stomach for the battle, when American lives are being lost each day and when the President continues to be caught red handed in one scandal after another.

To rouse public opinion to support America's colonial war effort, the US intelligence community has created it own terrorist organizations. War propaganda, disinformation and counterterrorism are braided together to achieve the maximum result, for “terrorism” must remain front and center in the minds of American citizens if America is going to reach its foreign policy objectives, be it under George Bush or John Kerry.

Here’s how it works. The disinformation is circulated to the news media and then the intelligence community creates its own terror warnings concerning the very organizations it has created. In some cases, the disinformation appears in advance, in order to pave the way for an up and coming act of “terror” that roots in a desired political outcome. This problem/solution equation always appears when the war effort is waning and serves to give a face to terror via an expensive advertising campaign.

And this is precisely what we have Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi, America’s new “public enemy No 1”is. Zarqawi and his group have been used from the justification for the invasion of Iraq to the latest “barbaric” videotaped beheadings that his group claims to have carried out.
The US State Department has increased the reward for his arrest from $10 million to $25 million, which puts his "market value" at par with that of Osama. Interestingly, Al Zarqawi is not on the FBI most wanted fugitives list. http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/topten/fugitives/fugitives.htm )

What follows are excerpts from an in-depth report from The Centre for Research on Globalization that has gone to considerable lengths to document this false flag operation. The complete article can be read at http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO405B.html

SOURCE


Emanuel Goldstein.
 
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