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Marine Leaves Because of Moral Reasons....

righteousdude2

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Many in DC, and around the country thought those in the service would not be bothered with the change in the "don't' ask, don't tell! law. Well, the following was an interesting quote from a Marine Gunnery Sargent Harry Berres, USMC, and I know another career soldier in the Army who is doing the same. :tear:

Do you know anyone who has left the military or is planning to leave the military over the morality of this new law? :thumbsup:

"When I joined the military it was illegal to be homosexual, then it became optional, and now it's legal. I'm getting out before Obama makes it mandatory." :tear:


SEE: http://www.militarytimes.com/forum/...-illegal-to-be-homosexual-then-it-became-quot
 

Salty

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Here is my question. When GySgt Harry Berres, USMC, gets out will be ETS'ing or will he be retiring?

Its easy to say that when you will be getting a check once a month. And as a E-7 Berres probably does have his 20 years. Now if he has 18 or 19 years in - that would be a profound statement.

As for myself - I would consider that the mission field......
 

freeatlast

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I would say the mission field work is not going too good as we see the progression of sin and little being said about it as most are rolling over to the sin.
 

Arbo

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I would say the mission field work is not going too good as we see the progression of sin and little being said about it as most are rolling over to the sin.

If I remember correctly, it took Adonirom Judson twleve years to see eighteen converts in Burma. Big impacts are not always instantaneous. Niether are small ones necessarily in vain.
 

Scarlett O.

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If I remember correctly, it took Adonirom Judson twleve years to see eighteen converts in Burma. Big impacts are not always instantaneous. Niether are small ones necessarily in vain.

Exactly. :flower: I'm writing this one down.....:type:
 

Don

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If I remember correctly, it took Adonirom Judson twleve years to see eighteen converts in Burma. Big impacts are not always instantaneous. Niether are small ones necessarily in vain.

I think that qualifies for at least post of the week. Might I add, I had a pastor ask this question: if all the Christians leave, who's left to fulfill the great commission?
 

freeatlast

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If I remember correctly, it took Adonirom Judson twleve years to see eighteen converts in Burma. Big impacts are not always instantaneous. Niether are small ones necessarily in vain.
That would be fine if those in the military were Adonirom Judson and openly speaking out against the evil, as much as the evil is openly celebrating itself, but they are not.
You can put this man down, but I salute this man who took a stand. He has more character then 100 who just remain and stay quiet to speak so as not to be heard. We need John the Baptists not silent missionaries.
 
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billwald

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As the depression sets in, the military will be the best (only?) option which will pay the bills for many young people.
 

Don

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We're not putting this man down. We're commenting on the ignorant assumptions that other military members are not speaking up.
 

Arbo

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That would be fine if those in the military were Adonirom Judson and openly speaking out against the evil, as much as the evil is openly celebrating itself, but they are not.

I presume that you know this to be fact and can give evidence to that effect, and that you will be kind enough to provide it.

You can put this man down, but I salute this man who took a stand. He has more character then 100 who just remain and stay quiet to speak so as not to be heard. We need John the Baptists not silent missionaries.

First of all, I neither did nor am putting him down for his decision. Whether I agree or not with it is irrelevant. It is between he, the Corps, his family, and of course his Lord.

Second, what would you have every 101st Christian servicemember (the ones that you claim have "more character") do? Leave?

Your bitterness toward the U.S. Military is well documented by your posts here on the Baptist Board. It may not be the case, but your eager praise of this Marine's leaving the Corps makes one wonder if your opinion might be tainted.
 
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LadyEagle

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If I remember correctly, it took Adonirom Judson twleve years to see eighteen converts in Burma. Big impacts are not always instantaneous. Niether are small ones necessarily in vain.

Poor Noah. Not 1 convert.... back on topic.....
 

Sapper Woody

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A marine leaving the Corps on moral grounds? Good for him. But, others not following that example is not necessarily a bad thing. I know of Godly men who have given all their money away to help others. Is this good? Yes. But if others don't do it, are they evil? No.
 

Bro. James

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This is about redefining sin and conformity to the world. Lot probably had a similar problem. He was just and vexed--too late, the alternative lifestyles controlled Sodom. Lot and his family were dragged out of the city. Lot's wife turned to go back--she made the wrong choice. Lot's daughters' actions continued to result in misery for Lot and his progeny. The NT plainly warns: Remember Lot's wife.

Have we forgotten that Sodom and Gommorrah were destroyed by God for sexual perversion? Then there is the flood of Noah--God destroyed a multitude of the Human kind in a catastrophe still denied by most of mankind. He spared eight--not because they deserved it--Noah found grace, even though it grieved God that He had made man.

We have a new code of immorality. If it feels good, do it. If the action offends, change the definition to something less offensive. i.e. abortion used to be murder; now it is freedom of choice. We could use the term ammorality in this context--the morality of Humanism.

We still have an order from God: be fruitful and multiply, replenish the earth. How do those with alternate lifestyles accomplish this mission?
Sorry, chasing rabbits again.

Peace,

Amazing Grace,
 

Don

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Agree with your post wholeheartedly.

But what does it have to do with the Marine from the opening post?
 

Arbo

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That would be fine if those in the military were Adonirom Judson and openly speaking out against the evil, as much as the evil is openly celebrating itself, but they are not.

I presume that you know this to be fact and can give evidence to that effect, and that you will be kind enough to provide it.

How 'bout it Freeatlast - were you speaking fact, or were you spouting supposition?
 
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Don

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Yea right :laugh: The biased press would jump on anything that looked like Christians standing up for moral values especially if it was military..
Although I agree with you that the press is biased, especially against Christians--where were they when the 3-star general in charge of Defense Information Services Agency referenced God in his commander's call remarks? He got ripped to shreds in the military propaganda newspapers we call the "Army Times," "Air Force Times," etc. But where were all the biased non-military press articles?

So yeah, there are those that are being reported on, and there are those that aren't.
 
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