Marine Sues Murtha

In order to protect the country, I also expect our politicians be punished for abuse of power.

I caught that he was abusing his power and going outside of the legally appointed congressional investigation process. I caught that he did not care about the lives of the Marines.

I think carpro might have caught that as well.

 

Yeah, like politicians never give speeches.

Where did you get that from? Surely not from what he actually said. He has always been supportive of the troops even in his opposition to the way this invasion has been handled. Murtha has said that we either need sufficient troops to stablilize Iraq (linkie) OR we need to get out. For some reason of their own, certain people ignore the first part and attack him on the second.

Did you know that the SwiftLiars are out to get him (linkie)? This is payback for his opposition to Bush and his Iraqi quagmire.

 

Maybe Murtha is a little unhappy that the honor of all Marines was dirtied by these killings.

Let the chips fall where they may. But don't let murder go unpunished.

 

I'm interested to know what an in depth serious investigation turns up.

 

I don't think Murtha needs advice from an armchair general on combat stress when operating in civillian areas. He was wounded twice in Vietnam, whiile earning a bronze star and two purple hearts.

Isn't it amazing that the guys who are reluctant to have wars are the guys who actually served honorably in them?

Isn't it amazing that they guys who chickened out when asked to serve, are the enthusiastic warriors? (so long as they don't have to do it)

Is is surprising that Murtha, who served bravely is outraged? Is is surprising that those who failed to serve are not?

 

Apparently, it is or there wouldn't be so many news stories, largely sympathetic, about it.

A decorated ex-Marine himself

Did you catch where he got the information from, carpro? He didn't just make it up.

Who told him? Answer that, carpro.

 

On the contrary, we need more people willing to call a spade a spade and brave the smear campaigns of the vast right-wing conspiracy.

 

Having lived with it, and having to command men under it, I suppose he thinks that he doesn't need those who never went thorugh it to lecture him on it.

Those who commit murders need more stress on them, not less.

Maybe Rumsfeld can explain what combat stress does. Rummy has never seen combat, so he's probably an expert.

 

We'll see what the investigation showed, soon enough. Sometimes, innocent people get arrested. But not all that often.

 

I'm in favor of people commenting on international incidents, definitely yes. You know that he did not accuse any of them personally - he repeated what he was told by miltitary sources and used this incident as an example of what Bush's failed policy leads to.

Where is your outcry against military officials?

 

This is where the info came from. Why don't you care?

And?

Only in certain, unthinking segments of the population.

That's some unsupported accusation you made there, carpro! What evidence do you have that he lied about where he got his information? It is hardly incredibly stupid, or even mildly stupid, to state what the evidence indicated.

This smells like hate-radio regurgitated slime.

 

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I did not say he lied or that he was stupid. This is deceit on your part to pretend that I have.

That's right - he is definitely under attack by the pro-war right-wingers, including the SwiftLiars regrouped under a new name.

There are three other possibilities here: Murtha was mistaken about who first told him, Lapan is mistaken or Lapan is lying.

It's interesting how eager you are to condemn Murtha as a liar on one man's word.

 

The Marines, after investigating, have concluded that the troops who claimed the civilians were killed in the blast of a mine, did not tell the truth. They were, according to the Marine investigators, killed by the Marines themselves.

The Marines involved reported that they engaged in a fierce firefight with Iraqis firing from several houses, where they later broke in and shot the civilians. But there are no bullet holes in the outsides of any of the houses. Only inside.

If one is not guilty, it's hard to see why one would lie about it.