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Featured Mark 14:12-16. Nisan 14.

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by 37818, Oct 18, 2023.

  1. Alan Gross

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    It's right in Mark 14:17. " in the evening".

    Correct. And every Bible passage concerning it all fitting together.

    It was "their" Wednesday, "in the evening", of our Tuesday, before their Wednesday day, when Jesus was crucified.

    It says, " in the evening", not the next, or "following" evening.

    It might be funny, but is just how all of the Bible passages fit together, to all arrive at the same conclusion.
     
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    So, they are to eat leavened bread on the 21st?

    Then, why would they be eating leavened bread during the feast of unleavened bread?

    The Jews seem to understand this of different corn of which the bread was made, (the unleavened sheaf that they ate on Nison 14, on the Passover Day, the day of preparation, as the first fruits of the barley harvest) and not of different sort of bread;

    the Targum of Jonathan is, on the first day (of the 7 days of the overall feast of unleavened, on the Passover Day, the day of preparation), ye shall offer the sheaf (the firstfruits of the barley harvest),

    and on the six days which remain (of a total of 7, in which they were still to eat unleavened bread, it is saying) ye shall begin to eat the unleavened bread of the new fruits, and so Jarchi:
     
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    The Targum as such, is not the authorative word of God.
    They are only commanded to eat unleavened bread 7 days not the 8th day. Exodus 12:18. Eating unleaven bread is never forbidden.
     
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    The command to eat unleavened bread is only for 7 days. With only one exception, Deuteronomy 16:8, and the explanation is found in Exodus 12:18, giving the 7 of the 8 days.
     
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    Galatians5: 7 "Ye did run well; who did hinder you that ye should not obey the truth?

    8 "This persuasion cometh not of him that calleth you.

    9 "A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump."

    Just kidding, Br. P!

    Come to find out, those wonderful verses are directed at me, in case Salty wonders why we go on and on about this stuff.

    Eventually, that anti-type scripture about Unleavened Bread, was used by God to nail me, on some stuff!!!

    Cool. Praise the Lord!
     
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    There is no "their" Wednesday.
    Jewish days begin with their evening's.
    Mark 14:12-16 WAS the day of the Passover.
    Mark 14:17 WAS the FOLLOWING stated evening.
     
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    I'm having the disciples asking, "Where wilt thou that we go and prepare that thou mayest eat the passover?", after 6:00 pm on our Tuesday, which is the very beginning of their Wednesday, Nison 14, in the late afternoon after 6:00 pm on our Tuesday, the beginning of their Wednesday Passover and day of preparation, "the first day of unleavened bread, when they killed the passover..."

    A few hours later on, around ~8 -9pm +/-, on our Tuesday, in the same beginning of their Wednesday Passover and day of preparation, the sun would have began to have gone down fully, so in the dark of what would be our Tuesday "evening", which is still in the beginning of their Wednesday, Nison 14, the night before Jesus was crucified, is what I'm saying that:
    17 "And in the evening he cometh with the twelve", means.

    Then, they fix the Passover, eat the Lord's final Supper, go to the Garden, Jesus is arrested, and is taken to His trials through the night, still their Wednesday, Nison, before the day light of the Wednesday Passover Day, when Jesus is crucified and buried, before 6 pm.
    ...

    Whereas, if your saying that it was Friday, Nison 14(?) the day of the Passover, per the O.P., as in: 12 "And the first day of unleavened bread, when they killed the passover, his disciples said unto him, Where wilt thou that we go and prepare that thou mayest eat the passover?"

    where you said:
    and then we add to that what you said about:
    that would have you saying that:
    17 "And in the evening he cometh with the twelve",

    would be on Saturday evening, at night, Nison 15(?)

    Then, on that "Following stated evening", from the Passover, Nison 14, as you said, which would be in the evening on the weekly Sabbath, Saturday, Nison 15, at night, then they fix the Passover, eat the Lord's final Supper, go to the Garden, Jesus is arrested, and is taken to His trials through the rest of the night, and is crucified during the day light and then Jesus would have been buried just before 6 pm, which would be just before the beginning their Sunday, right?

    Which would have Jonah having to have been left in the whales belly for less than 12 hours(?)

    I may be totally wrong, but if that's the case, we'd have to start a brand new whole set of threads there, wouldn't we??

    Whew!

    Say it's not so!?! :Laugh:):Tongue:Sneaky:Thumbsup:Geek:Biggrin.
     
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    The "High Sabbaths" follow the same rules as the regular weekly Sabbaths. On Passover Week, there are usually two Sabbaths in one week. If a High Sabbath falls on the same day as a regular Sabbath, the same rules are followed.

    Misunderstanding of this led to the creation of "Good Friday", which isn't a real holiday at all. Jesus was actually killed in 27 AD. based on the fact He was born in 7 BC, as Quirinius, mentioned by Luke, was governor of the area only until 7 BC. Plwase read when passover began in 27 AD.

    "Preparation Day" is when as much mundane work as possible was done for the next day, the Sabbath, as well as for the prep day itself. (Of course, some work must be done on Sabbaths, such as baby care, tending the sick, & animal husbandry.)
     
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