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Mark My Words: Obama Will FAIL His Test....

dan e.

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righteousdude2 said:
You heard it here; and you heard it first. I don't know when that generated crisis Biden is speaking about will surface, BUT, I can assure you that BHO will fail the test miserably. That's why Biden wants America to stand behind them, NO matter what??

This will be the first time in my life [should the angry, not so bright of this this nation get Obama elected] that I will not be proud to be an American. It will also be the first time that I will not refer to the president as "my president." You don't know how much this aches and pains my heart, but, how can I stand behind and support a president that has lied and manipulated his way to the top job in this nation.

If I were able to physically and financially able to move to Canada and become a Canadian citizen, I would do it on November 5th.

I can safely predict that things are going to go from "Bush bad" to Obama terrible.

My prayers are for God's will in this nation, and I firmly believe that God will put the right man in office. McCain's victory signals to me that God is still on the side of this nation. But, Obama is God's righteous judgment of this nation, and I see an Obama victory as the beginning of God's last warning to America to get it right. Obama means this nation is being punished, and He will punish us through Obama who has been sent to chastise the people of this once proud nation. When I say chastise, I mean Obama will be so bad as POTUS, that come the next general election, people will overwhelmingly vote Obama out of office.

I can only hope that God gives us one more chance, and miraculously gets McCain elected.

Shalom to all,

Pastor Paul:type:

oh good grief. have you never considered that if Obama is our leader, then we should pray for him to make the right decisions? And that it would be the majority of the nation that put him there?

You make it sound as if he's put himself there. If people voted him in...that's the way democracy works.
 

just-want-peace

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dan e. said:
And that it would be the majority of the nation that put him there?

If the allegations of voter fraud that so many are espousing turn out to be fact, then this may not be true!!!!! What then???
 

LeBuick

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Palatka51 said:
The people of this nation elect their leaders out of the lusts of their hearts and not out of love for their nation, this God will judge. :praying:

May God have mercy on us all!

He did, He sent His son who died for the sin's of the world.

Define "love for their nation"? Is that love as you believe love should be defined or love as they feel it in their hearts. Did God give love exclusively to you or has He given a little to the rest of us?

Using God in this capacity is very close to blasphemy. My God is very capable of speaking for Himself and unless he has so dubbed you the new Prophet I would be careful speaking prophetically on his behalf. You know, he could also pass judgment on this country if He gets tired of His Name being used in vain.
 

LeBuick

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Palatka51 said:
Isn't it interesting that, while studying the OT, God did not judge the people while a wicked king was on the throne (although the people did suffer when attacked by an enemy say, Syria). However God did judge both Israel (north) and Judah (south) by total annihilation when the sin of the people became full.

Kinda reminds me of the Clinton years then we are hit with 9/11/01. Now what will happen when our people vote their lusts and the next POTUS will bring in judges that will allow abortion on demand and gay marriages? This is the question that everyone must ask themselves. Do we trust God or do we trust government?

A vote for Obama is a vote for universal health care, wealth redistribution, gay rights and murder of unborn children. Total government control over our lives by hand outs.

A vote for McCain will still be a vote for many of the same things, however he has promised that abortion will be limited and judges will be appointed that will not legislate from the bench.


You guys really scare me the way you throw God's name out there.... That's all I can say.
 

JamieinNH

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Palatka51 said:
Kinda reminds me of the Clinton years then we are hit with 9/11/01. Now what will happen when our people vote their lusts and the next POTUS will bring in judges that will allow abortion on demand and gay marriages? This is the question that everyone must ask themselves. Do we trust God or do we trust government?
In all things and times good and bad we are to trust God.. There will be people here on this board that if Obama is elected will call it a judgment, if McCain wins they will call it a victory even though both of them are so close together. Either way, God will be and has always been in control. At least he is in my life.


Palatka51 said:
A vote for Obama is a vote for universal health care, wealth redistribution, gay rights and murder of unborn children. Total government control over our lives by hand outs.

A vote for McCain will still be a vote for many of the same things, however he has promised that abortion will be limited and judges will be appointed that will not legislate from the bench.
McCain says a lot of things, so does Obama... neither of them are worth the office in my opinion, but WE the people get exactly what we have asked for.. nothing more, nothing less.. You can't tell me of all the people in Amerian these two were the best we could put up for the office of POTUS?

It's ashame really...
 

JamieinNH

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just-want-peace said:
If the allegations of voter fraud that so many are espousing turn out to be fact, then this may not be true!!!!! What then???

You mean the same type of fraud that was cried when Bush was first elected? If it doesn't or isn't ever proved there was wide spread fraud, then people will still believe there was.... The same type of people that didn't want Bush to win and still to this day call his election a fraud, that type of people exist on the other side of the aisle and will claim the same thing about Obama..

I wonder if the 'normal' people will tell us all to let it go, that the election is over and that now is the time we should pray for our leaders? Isn't that pretty much what was said about Bush to those people that wouldn't let it go?!?
 

LeBuick

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JamieinNH said:
McCain says a lot of things, so does Obama... neither of them are worth the office in my opinion, but WE the people get exactly what we have asked for.. nothing more, nothing less.. You can't tell me of all the people in Amerian these two were the best we could put up for the office of POTUS?

It's ashame really...

:applause: :applause: :applause:

Well said... :thumbs:
 

Timsings

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righteousdude2 said:
You heard it here; and you heard it first. I don't know when that generated crisis Biden is speaking about will surface, BUT, I can assure you that BHO will fail the test miserably. That's why Biden wants America to stand behind them, NO matter what?? . . .

I can safely predict that things are going to go from "Bush bad" to Obama terrible.

My prayers are for God's will in this nation, and I firmly believe that God will put the right man in office. McCain's victory signals to me that God is still on the side of this nation. But, Obama is God's righteous judgment of this nation, and I see an Obama victory as the beginning of God's last warning to America to get it right. Obama means this nation is being punished, and He will punish us through Obama who has been sent to chastise the people of this once proud nation. When I say chastise, I mean Obama will be so bad as POTUS, that come the next general election, people will overwhelmingly vote Obama out of office.

I can only hope that God gives us one more chance, and miraculously gets McCain elected. . . .


The charges in this post and the arrogant pretensions to knowledge are outrageous. To refer to any candidate's election as being "God's will" or "God's punishment" denigrates and trivializes God's will generally. I would remind you that the OT prophets were persecuted because they proclaimed God's word in opposition to prevailing religious sentiments. We should not be so quick to judge what God is doing in this election. We should be supportive of the president, whoever he is. As much as I disagreed with George W. Bush, I never turned my back on him. He was still my president because I am an American, and I participated in the election. I contend that you, like the rest of us are being tested in this election. I suspect that you are failing miserably. If you think this is too harsh, well, one good hyperbole deserves another. :BangHead:

Tim Reynolds
 

Palatka51

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LeBuick said:
He did, He sent His son who died for the sin's of the world.

Define "love for their nation"? Is that love as you believe love should be defined or love as they feel it in their hearts. Did God give love exclusively to you or has He given a little to the rest of us?

Using God in this capacity is very close to blasphemy. My God is very capable of speaking for Himself and unless he has so dubbed you the new Prophet I would be careful speaking prophetically on his behalf. You know, he could also pass judgment on this country if He gets tired of His Name being used in vain.
I will not stand for this kind of language!!! I have not come near to having blasphemed. But sense they accused my Lord of the same, then I am in great company.
 

righteousdude2

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And You Accused Me of Being Low???

LeBuick said:
Only if the bomb landed on the office... :wavey:
You sunk to a new low yourself Dude. Now that we are both down, maybe we can be Christian enough to lift each other up and out of the pit from which we fell into?:laugh:

:wavey: I'm right down here.....
 

righteousdude2

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To Answer Your Question, In Short...

dragonfly said:
Is the United States so big and important that God doesn't rule and put in office those He chooses? If so, should you not pray for the one who wins the election regardless of how you feel personally? Surely you would not fight against God, pastor. I agree that Obama, if elected will no doubt enact liberal policies, but considering the way the people in our country act, this may be better than we deserve. The U.S. is on a downhill slide and nothing will stop us on our way to ruin. It's only the grace of God that we have lasted as long as we have, considering our treatment of the unborn and our acceptance of Sodomy!
If you must be told, I'll share something with you that a lot of us already know....the USA is no longer under the Favored Hand of the Father.

I believe the US has been undergoing subtle warnings over the last 15 to 20 years, and we keep failing to repent and return to Him [we is collective for the entire group of people in this nation:1_grouphug: , not necessarily the Christians or the church].

The 9/11 incident, Katrina, etc., were simply warnings, and I believe they will only grow in their intensity. LE thinks we suffer a nuke strike, and that is a real possibility! The truth is, we are under going His judgment, and I would think that while He pulls His Favor and judges this nation [for killing unborn children, wickedness, false gods, greed, corruption, adultery, growth of homosexuality], I'd like to think that He is still allowing us to still choose a leader [even though the leaders are not of the caliber that they once were], and I'd want a leader that knows how to protect the people. We [the nation of people] will not escape the judgment of God, no one will. But, we need strong leaders as we are in the last days. We can choose our leader, and it would be wise to choose wisely; and McCain is the best choice we have should there be a military crisis, and that is a very likely proposition.:praying:

The Lord has packed his bags, bought a ticket, and ready to come back....we just need to be ready too....for His return will be like "a thief in the night!"

Pastor Paul:type:
 

Dragoon68

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BaptistBeliever said:
George Bush has already lead us down that path by nationalizing banks, mortgage companies and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. I suppose that's what you meant by "further."

No, it started long before President Bush and was fathered by the Democrats with the New Deal thinking.
 

Dragoon68

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LeBuick said:
Too bad BB beat me to it, but government bought in to private business before Obama got elected (if he makes office). So don't blame him for the direction of the bus. Let's just hope he can turn it around...

Obama will steer the bus hard to the left. We'll be in the ditch or run over by the on-coming traffic.
 

Dragoon68

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Crabtownboy said:
You cannot make a country Socialist that is already Socialist. :laugh:

Then the next step is Communist from which all people ultimately seek freedom but at great cost.
 

LeBuick

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righteousdude2 said:
You sunk to a new low yourself Dude. Now that we are both down, maybe we can be Christian enough to lift each other up and out of the pit from which we fell into?:laugh:

:wavey: I'm right down here.....

You bet buddy, you can stand on my shoulders if you promise to pull me up when you get out the ditch...
 

LeBuick

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Dragoon68 said:
Obama will steer the bus hard to the left. We'll be in the ditch or run over by the on-coming traffic.

Possibly, but it's better than the cliff on the right. At least we have a chance of making it.
 

Dragoon68

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Palatka51 said:
Kings and Emperors ruled in the day of Paul. When Paul said to obey the powers that be, he was speaking of them. In our system the ultimate power is with the people and overall the people of this land have lost their way. We will get the leaders we deserve and as such some leaders will be taskmasters brought in by God to chastise.


Oh well, It is yet the Word of God.

Absolutely! Few people understand the difference much less see that the responsiblity for what has happened and is happening rests with the people. If we continue we will utlimately lose our ability to govern ourselves.
 

righteousdude2

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We've Come to Far...

LeBuick said:
You bet buddy, you can stand on my shoulders if you promise to pull me up when you get out the ditch...
We've grown since I've come on the BB....and I count you as a brother, even if we disagree. I'd never leave a brother, or sister [including Palin] behind.

Love In His Name,

Pastor Paul:thumbs:
 

Bible-boy

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LeBuick said:
Possibly, but it's better than the cliff on the right. At least we have a chance of making it.

Before you can make such a claim you first must establish the fact that there is such a cliff on the right...:tonofbricks:
 

Dragoon68

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JamieinNH said:
Whoever wins, it will be a decline of this nation... no one person can stop it and until we wake up it won't change...

Obama/McCain they are both the same....

Obama and McCain are not at all the same! McCain isn't ideal be he's a whole lot better than Obama. The available choices my not be as favorable as we'd like but it's a mistake to write off the decision as an equal choice and to thereby take a stance of apathy.
 
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