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Martha McSally, Arizona

church mouse guy

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If Martha McSally hangs on to win in Arizona, it will be the first time in years that Arizona will have had two Republican US Senators at the same time!
 

Benjamin

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If Martha McSally hangs on to win in Arizona, it will be the first time in years that Arizona will have had two Republican US Senators at the same time!
Actually, we had both McCain and Flake at the same time...oh, err, you said "Republican" didn't you...never mind. ;)

Why on earth these votes can't be counted on time seems pretty incompetent. Should McSally not hang on it would ruin this election for me. I'm tired of the embarrassment of our State's RINOs and concerned about all the people that have moved here to escape from California and yet brought their failing politics with them!
 

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Honestly, my first thought was: What is CMG talking about, we had 2 with McCain and the Flake? Then, my next thought was: This has got to be a trick question, ...he said "Republican", that's it! :)

Yes, I am quite leary of what is going on with this vote counting in AZ...
 

Benjamin

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Watched a news report:

Something smells fishy about all these "non-identification early ballots" that "show up" from people that "don't happen to have their ID on them" on election day. The Maricopa County Recorder sounds cocky saying how he's going "to follow the law" with these mysterious non-ID last minute early ballot drop-offs. Hmmm...seems like a lot an awful lot of people HAPPEN to forget their ID...
 

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Ah here we go. The Dems blamed the Russians and now the Repubs are going to blame voter fraud. Doesn’t anybody know how to take their L anymore?
 

Benjamin

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So, my son announces last night that it looks like Sinema has won, he reads off his phone that with 99.6% of the vote in she is 7,000 votes ahead. After my rant, "What the heck is wrong with people in this state that they would vote for a Taliban loving Globalist that is pushing socialism and open borders!!" - I start to try to wrap my head around the idea of having to watch this wacko lead our state for the next 6 years! - Disgusting! Unbelievable! - I tell my son we may have to move out of this state!! Its being overrun and turning into another California! We're going from RINOs to worse!

In utter disbelief, I search the news and quickly see the vote count, Sinema 232K and McSally 226K with 99% reporting. Sick!! Time to pray! You would think that would settle it, but then I read that Sinema takes a slight lead and that the election is still too close to call and there are still 400K votes to be counted. Just a little quick math off the top of my head but that equals about 40% of the vote yet to count - so how can that be 99% reporting???

So much fake news! I don't know what I can believe anymore. Okay then, more prayer! Less politics. After this matter is settled I'm done closely following all this rhetorical political "news". It gets way to much of my time and concern that is better spent elsewhere. I believe we are currently in pretty hands regardless of the outcome of the senate race in my state. With Trump, God has shown that He is watching out for our country. Faith should lead me not to be anxious for tomorrow, to know we are in good hands, and I should know better than to let my time be consumed by the games of politicians and news reporters when there are so many more important things to focus on! ... Grr
 

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Well, I think there is blatant election fraud going on in Florida, but the system in Arizona has at least a problem of not being able to count the votes quickly. This does seem "off", third world country-ish. There's no reason on Earth that this person should have even come close in Arizona, same with Gillum, Abrams, and little Beto.

Either they had the election fraud already in place and fell a little short OR this is the demographic shift in spades illustrated in AZ, TX, GA, and FL. You can't just blame Californians when those states are swarming with illegals.
 

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Talked to my son last night, he lives in Chevy Chase, MD. When he went to vote, & pulled out his license, the guy acted like he just pulled out a weapon. Oh no, put that away, we don’t need that. Unless, & until we grab sanity back, before it is gone forever, we are in deep stuff.
 

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Talked to my son last night, he lives in Chevy Chase, MD. When he went to vote, & pulled out his license, the guy acted like he just pulled out a weapon. Oh no, put that away, we don’t need that. Unless, & until we grab sanity back, before it is gone forever, we are in deep stuff.

I hardly understand the Indiana system anymore. You can vote wherever you want within a county I guess. They scan your drivers license and then you sign on a small screen something like a credit card reader in a store. Then they write down you precinct number and give it to the judge. The judge opens the computer and finds your township and precinct ballot and punches it in. Your ballot appears and you go ahead and vote.

If they knock you off the list with your absentee ballot, that would prevent that fraud of voting in person and absentee and hoping the precinct inspector didn't notice. I think a lot of people are registered in all the states where they have homes and thereby vote twice or more but in different states. Others such as Mexicans have dual citizenship and vote in two countries.

It used to be one man, one vote. Now the public is intent upon cheating.
 

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This sounds about right in not only in Florida, but Arizona. Tons of last-minute/early-votes suddenly appear with no ID given that need to be verified and by golly they are going to make sure every vote is counted. And wouldn't you know the leading is suddenly reversed in dramatic fashion...

 

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Ah here we go. The Dems blamed the Russians and now the Repubs are going to blame voter fraud. Doesn’t anybody know how to take their L anymore?
You are very badly or blindly missing the obvious pattern--By Any Means Necessary:
  • The Dems tried and are still trying to use the Russians to undermine the presidential election they lost.
  • The Dems are trying to use fake votes to overturn some other elections they lost.
  • The Dems are trying desperately to import illegals and make them eligible to vote ASAP.
  • The Dems don’t want any ID checking for voting, claiming voter suppression (& see previous).
  • The Dems brainwash and indoctrinate college students and school children with political propaganda.
  • The Dems, via MSM & TV, spin news stories into political propaganda, which people like you buy.
  • The Dems use harassment and violence to shut down all debate and silence any opposing voices.
  • The Dems will stop at nothing to gain political power—By Any Means Necessary.
 
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You are very badly or blindly missing the obvious pattern--By Any Means Necessary:
  • The Dems tried and are still trying to use the Russians to undermine the presidential election they lost.
  • The Dems are trying to use fake votes to overturn some other elections they lost.
  • The Dems are trying desperately to import illegals and make them eligible to vote ASAP.
  • The Dems don’t want any ID checking for voting, claiming voter suppression (& see previous).
  • The Dems brainwash and indoctrinate college students and school children with political propaganda.
  • The Dems, via MSM & TV, spin news stories into political propaganda, which people like you buy.
  • The Dems use harassment and violence to shut down all debate and silence any opposing voices.
  • The Dems will stop at nothing to gain political power—By Any Means Necessary.

You can bullet point conspiracy theory talking points all you want. I love the third from last bullet. Hannity literally is a working mouthpiece for Trump and yet you don’t mention that. Of course people like YOU will buy it. I’m watching what the GOP is doing in Arizona too. All of a sudden they want to file a lawsuit about absentee voting just because the competition has gotten steeper. Didn’t want to mention that did you? Nah, of course not.

Might want to watch who you accuse of “buying MSM and TV talking points.” If you don’t know me than maybe you’ll learn you are barking up the wrong tree.
 

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It's a conspiracy, I tell you!!! I really wonder if Arizona voters could tell much difference between McSally and this other nut and some of them about had to have split their votes, coz the GOP dude won big as governor.

This is my problem messing around with a state's political system I'm not familiar with - somebody that was born and raised in the state told me it was par for the course for elections to be decided very late and this McSally person's voting record was to the left of both McCain and Flake. She barely won her primary this time, and she refused to endorse Trump two years ago and wouldn't say who she voted for in the general. Sounds like a Carly Fiorana type.
 

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this McSally person's voting record was to the left of both McCain and Flake.
McSally was elected to the House in 2014. Her first American Conservative Union rating, for 2015, was just 58! The other four Arizona Republicans in the House had ratings of 100, 96, 96, 100. (In the Senate, McCain's was 67, Flake's: 79).

ACU Ratings

After a couple of years, her lifetime rating now stands at 71 (McCain, 80; Flake, 93).

ACU Ratings
 
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Benjamin

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somebody that was born and raised in the state told me it was par for the course for elections to be decided very late...
I don't recall anything like this before.

...and this McSally person's voting record was to the left of both McCain and Flake.
This is news to me, but from what she said she currently supported she was VERY far right of Sinema.

She barely won her primary this time,
Doesn't mean much considering she ran against another conservative.
and she refused to endorse Trump two years ago
Big club there, but many have changed their mind and she claims to one that did.
and wouldn't say who she voted for in the general.
Well, that's a concern considering the poor logic of giving Hillary a pass if one didn't vote for Trump.
 

Benjamin

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McSally was elected to the House in 2014. Her first American Conservative Union rating, for 2015, was just 58! The other four Arizona Republicans in the House had ratings of 100, 96, 96, 100. (In the Senate, McCain's was 67, Flake's: 79).

ACU Ratings

After a couple of years, her lifetime rating now stands at 71 (McCain, 80; Flake, 93).

ACU Ratings
That is news to me, but thanks, because it eases my pain a bit of having a nut job Globalist wacko for my senator for the next 6 years! But would still take McSally over Sinema any day...
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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You can bullet point conspiracy theory talking points all you want. I love the third from last bullet. Hannity literally is a working mouthpiece for Trump and yet you don’t mention that. Of course people like YOU will buy it. I’m watching what the GOP is doing in Arizona too. All of a sudden they want to file a lawsuit about absentee voting just because the competition has gotten steeper. Didn’t want to mention that did you? Nah, of course not.

Might want to watch who you accuse of “buying MSM and TV talking points.” If you don’t know me than maybe you’ll learn you are barking up the wrong tree.
Sorry. No, I didn’t mention right leaning Fox News, which is a Johnny-come-lately, and not part of the left leaning MSM/TV. Nor did you mention what Democrats are doing in other states regarding the latest elections. But it would have been far more appropriate. Comparing extreme post-presidential Democrat reactions to the Republican one here is hardly apples to apples. It looks very biased.
 

777

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Well, yeah, I think the MSM helped both Beto and this Sienma person and all that out-of-state money campaign outspending Cruz and McSally put the Code Pinko loon over the top, but I doubt election fraud was the key in Arizona.

Then, it's not a stretch to think illegal aliens voting made them both closer but there were other inconsistencies in Arizona - same state pass a GOP-backed bill on campaign spending by over 12 points that will cripple the D party for decades, they rejected some green energy thing by 70-30 and passed a ban on services taxes by 30 points. That state has a big absentee ballot rate, something like 75 percent, and they have to verify each signature manually, that could take time.

Benjamin, this is what I think he was talking about:

Republican McSally wins last House race of 2014

took over a month that time. And McSally barely survived a brutal primary, and doing that will hurt you in the general. I think this Code Pinko whackadoo will be tossed out on her left ear next time she's up.
 
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