Mass Man Fired Over Views on Gay Marriage

[annsni]

Expressing an opinion that advocates sin is promoting sin. Yes, if someone in my business expressed an opinion that they thought it was OK to sin against God, they would get fired. Likely I'd warn them first and if they kept it up they would be fired. Yes, in my business I am the "speech police". People can "think" whatever they want as long as they keep it in their thoughts.

Well, I would guess that people who would work for you should just keep their mouths shut at all times. What an oppressive place to work.

I would. I wouldn't ever hire someone that isn't a Christian either though. I really couldn't care less if it is against the law or not.

I would hire someone who is unsaved. Honestly I've seen Christians who have been the worst employees and I wouldn't hire them if they paid me. On the other hand, I've seen excellent employees who were not saved. My husband had a business for many years and if he had to wait to find employees who were qualified AND Christians, he'd have never gotten off the ground.

As for the "I really couldn't care less if it's against the law or not" is quite the statement from a believer. A wonderful testimony to the Lord Jesus Christ, you know.

You should rethink the church you go to if you differ on these issues from your pastor. You should be in one accord.

If I had to search for a church that had the exact same beliefs as me, I'd never go to church. Additionally, if I would only go to a church that had the same exact beliefs as me, I'd have to change churches each time I was challenged by the Spirit regarding one of my beliefs. I've learned more and more as I've gotten older and I do not believe the same things I did when I was younger. I also don't believe everything I believed when I first came to this church. But what things we differ on are not essentials. Belief about the rapture? Doesn't matter one iota to me. Jesus will come back when He comes back. My arguing with someone won't make Him back any other time so what's the big deal?

 

[Jim1999]

Just remember that freedom of speech goes all ways.

Cheers,

Jim

 

[annsni]

Just remember that freedom of speech goes all ways.

Cheers,

Jim

I totally agree Jim. If an employee cannot speak in a conversation and say "I don't think homosexual marriage is right", then we need to allow others to state their opinions.

It's a different topic a bit but it ties into what you're saying - I saw on the news last week or so a story of a judge down south who wouldn't marry a couple where one was black and one was white because he was worried about the kids. My first instinct was "How pathetic! That judge should be fired!" but then I read more and heard the judge talk about it. He would not do the marriage but gave the couple the names of the other judges who would do it and SEEMED kind about it. Now, I don't know the judge's heart and all but I'm going to take it at face value - the judge feels strongly that the children would have a really difficult time and he did not want to be a part of that. So he chooses to not marry them. Once I thought it through, I can see down the road here in the US and a homosexual couple comes to get married and they speak to a Christian judge. The judge feels that homosexual marriage is wrong so he tells them that he cannot marry them but gives them the names of judges who will do the ceremony. The judge is now ostracized because of this and he is forced to quit (as the judge in the original story did just this past week, I think).

So we need to think about the issue both ways. If we feel we want the freedom to be able to state what we believe in a polite, non-combative manner, then we should allow those freedoms to others.

 

[Jim1999]

There is, however, a huge difference between a pastor refusing to marry anyone (attending to his own standards) and a civil servant refusing a legal act. This is why, we, as a group of pastors, in Canada, had the law changed, so we could choose who we married.

Cheers,

Jim

 

[Marcia]

The guy was provoked, ken. he did not immediately voice out his opinions against gay marriage.
The article says the gay party sensed his discomfort and kept bringing up the subject to him until he had to voice out his opinion and stand against gay marriage.
Seems to me harassment came from the other end.

Exactly.

The other point I've tried to make is that laws are changing such that more and more businesses will force people to go along with homosexual practices, indirectly or directly.

 

[just-want-peace]

Exactly.

The other point I've tried to make is that laws are changing such that more and more businesses will force people to go along with homosexual practices, indirectly or directly.

I got your point on the "double standard" first time around Marcia. I think it was very clear to anyone who wasn't just looking for something to complain about - of which there is an abundance on this board!!!!:sleep: