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Massive Blackouts!

Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by Gina B, Aug 14, 2003.

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  1. computerjunkie

    computerjunkie New Member

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    I am not a "conspiracy theorist" about every little thing that happens; however, I'm having a hard time with this one because it is so massive. It is extremely difficult to imagine somebody doesn't know what happened...by now anyway.

    Gina, you're hired!! Now get to work and find out what happened!!! :D
     
    #21 computerjunkie, Aug 15, 2003
  2. Daisy

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    Interesting analysis of NY grid problem

    So, this seems to have been foreseen (07/2001) by the industry.
     
    #22 Daisy, Aug 15, 2003
  3. Jim1999

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    The bottom line, which every consumer seems to miss, is that we are wasting too much energy. We need to learn to cut back on our overall consumption. Shut off those inefficient comfort airconditioners for starters, people with extra refrigerator and freezer units in their homes, and the waste of water, which requires electric power to generate.

    We are a wanton, wasteful society, and we need to learn this and learn it well.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
    #23 Jim1999, Aug 15, 2003
  4. KenH

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    The power grid in this country needs to be modernized. It's time to tell the environmental wackos and those with a NIMBY mindset to get lost on this issue so that progress can be made
     
    #24 KenH, Aug 15, 2003
  5. KenH

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    I don't think we Americans will ever totally succumb to the enviromental wacko non-people-friendly mindset and policy recommendations. :cool:
     
    #25 KenH, Aug 15, 2003
  6. Jim1999

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    Then live with blackouts or pay through the nose for energy. Simple enough.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
    #26 Jim1999, Aug 15, 2003
  7. Rev. Joshua

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    Ken,

    Environmentally sustainable energy resolves the NIMBY syndrome, and prevents progress at the expense of the future.

    Joshua
    "environmental wacko"
     
    #27 Rev. Joshua, Aug 15, 2003
  8. KenH

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    We provide energy for 280 million+ people. Environmental wackos have not proven that "environmentally sustainable" energy can do this more practically, more efficiently, and less expensively than the way we do so now. :cool:
     
    #28 KenH, Aug 15, 2003
  9. KenH

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    I prefer the third alternative. Elect enough politicians that have backbone and really care about the citizens' needs and economic progress who will tell the environmental wackos to go live a cave somewhere. :cool:
     
    #29 KenH, Aug 15, 2003
  10. Rev. Joshua

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    more practically, more efficiently, and less expensively

    Doing what is ethical is not necessarily synonymous with what is more practical, more efficient, and less expensive. Abortion, for instance, is far more efficient and less expensive than raising unwanted children; yet many here oppose abortion.

    Joshua
     
    #30 Rev. Joshua, Aug 15, 2003
  11. computerjunkie

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    Abortion is murder. Surely you can think of some other example to make your point...one that won't inflame most of the people who watch and participate on this board.
     
    #31 computerjunkie, Aug 15, 2003
  12. Barnabas H.

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    We are OK, thanks for asking Gina. What an ordeal it was though. You have to be there to really appreciate it. I haven't slept any since this blackout started, so I am off to bed early tonight. You must have read a lot of stuff in the newspapers, have seen documentaries on TV, heard it on the radio, so I am not adding to it. Only, that the Lord is gracious and we lived through it. [​IMG] [​IMG]

    P.S. Lost the power Thursday at 4:20 PM, and got it back today at 9:40 AM. But could't log in till 12:20 PM.
     
    #32 Barnabas H., Aug 15, 2003
  13. dianetavegia

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    C.J., I think that was the idea.... [​IMG]

    Diane
     
    #33 dianetavegia, Aug 15, 2003
  14. computerjunkie

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    I'm sure it was, Diane. But the comment disgusts and offends me and is totally uncalled for on this thread.
     
    #34 computerjunkie, Aug 15, 2003
  15. dianetavegia

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    Me too. I reported it to Dr. Bob right after it was posted. [​IMG]

    Diane
     
    #35 dianetavegia, Aug 15, 2003
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    When it gets hot you need a/c. No two ways about it. It was 109 a couple of weeks ago where I live...there's no way I would ever do without a/c that is INSANE. All you northerners who can open a window just don't get it. Planet earth can handle my a/c running no problem.
     
    #36 chargrove, Aug 15, 2003
  17. Gina B

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    This thread has reached the 3 page limit. It will close no sooner than 11:30 pm EST.
    Joshua has not broken any BB rules, for those who sent moderator alerts.
    I will ask that the thread stay on topic or it will be shut down early. Which would be kinda ironic for a thread on blackouts. [​IMG]
    Gina
     
    #37 Gina B, Aug 15, 2003
  18. Squire Robertsson

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    Sorry, Gina, to countermand you, but this is still a breaking story. So, as senior moderator on this forum, I am waving the 3 page limit for this thread. The waiver is only temporary. The mods will revisit the matter tomorrow afternoon.

    And as Gina said let's keep this thread on topic. The blackout is serious enough so let's not rabbit trail.
     
    #38 Squire Robertsson, Aug 16, 2003
  19. dianetavegia

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    Some Power Returns, New Problems Arise

    Bill Liss Reports (200K)
    Provided By: The Associated Press
    Last Modified: 8/15/2003 9:10:07 PM


    (AP) -- Bouncing back from the largest blackout in U.S. history, cities from the Midwest to Manhattan restored power Friday to millions of people -- only to confront a second series of woes created in the aftermath of the enormous outage.

    Electricity flowed in Cleveland on day two of the blackout, but water moved at a trickle. Times Square was once again the luminous center of Manhattan, but none of the subways were yet running. The lights clicked on in more than 1 million homes in Michigan, but gas remained in scarce supply around Detroit.

    Some customers in the Cleveland area, upstate New York and New York City received the unkindest cut of all: Their power was restored and then turned off due to rolling blackouts needed to conserve electricity.

    Officials in Michigan warned that the whir of air conditioners and the glow of televisions might not return until the end of the weekend as the cause of the massive outage remained a mystery.

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    There's a lot more to this story but the gist is.... more brownouts to follow!
     
    #39 dianetavegia, Aug 16, 2003
  20. KenH

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    MSNBC Breaking News
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    The failure of three transmission lines in northern Ohio was the likely trigger of the nation's biggest power blackout, a leading investigator says.
     
    #40 KenH, Aug 16, 2003
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